Westerwolds or italian

[daveydiesel1]

Got some barley stubble that im wanting to sow into either westerwolds or italian to grow over winter and cut early before ploughing to put into spring crops again. Which is best for this as in whats best feed value,tonnage,able to deal with a harsh winter if we get it?

 

[Nathan818]

I've been told there will be more italian volunteers in your following crop compared to westerwolds, if that's something you're concerned about

 

[daveydiesel1]

I've been told there will be more italian volunteers in your following crop compared to westerwolds, if that's something you're concerned about

Intend to spray off and plough in spring

 

[bobk]

Westerwolds for this short rotation every time

 

[som farmer]

ww cheaper than IRG

 

[daveydiesel1]

ww cheaper than IRG

Both same price basically currently

 

[clemmo]

I've been told there will be more italian volunteers in your following crop compared to westerwolds, if that's something you're concerned about

Other way round ime

 

[In the pit]

Other way round ime

Half westerwolds half Italian

 

[daveydiesel1]

Is the italian mixed with rye much good? Which out of these will bulk up but be decent feed?

 

[som farmer]

Westerwolds ryegrass is known for fast establishment and high tonnage, which could give you a good bulk early on. It’s great for a quick turnaround and can produce a decent cut in early spring. However, it’s a bit less hardy in tough winters compared to Italian ryegrass, so if you’re expecting a harsh winter, it might not be the best bet.
Italian ryegrass tends to be more winter-hardy and can still give you good yields, though it might take a little longer to establish compared to Westerwolds. It usually provides better feed value as well, with a higher protein content and more digestibility, which could be beneficial if you’re using it for feed.I don't want to give advice, just choose what suits you best.

fair advice.
we will be sowing w/w post harvest, to get the cover crop sub, and early silage cut, before maize.

tempted to stitch some into some older pasture as well, its nice and agressive.

 

[Keep On]

Westerwolds ryegrass is known for fast establishment and high tonnage, which could give you a good bulk early on. It’s great for a quick turnaround and can produce a decent cut in early spring. However, it’s a bit less hardy in tough winters compared to Italian ryegrass, so if you’re expecting a harsh winter, it might not be the best bet.
Italian ryegrass tends to be more winter-hardy and can still give you good yields, though it might take a little longer to establish compared to Westerwolds. It usually provides better feed value as well, with a higher protein content and more digestibility, which could be beneficial if you’re using it for feed.I don't want to give advice, just choose what suits you best.

AI

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Feedback says Westerwolds ever time short term, it will be away quicker and grow faster , price is the same though ,don't mix them the Westerwolds will be up to two weeks earlier than Italian so cutting dates won't match
Italian will be slightly better feed though

 

[Derrick Hughes]

For Seed Rate
10 kg acre for winter cover sheep grazing
14 kg if you want to take a good cut in spring
12 Months or longer if Italian then 16 to 18 kg , the higher rate if Tertraploid

 

[daveydiesel1]

For Seed Rate
10 kg acre for winter cover sheep grazing
14 kg if you want to take a good cut in spring
12 Months or longer if Italian then 16 to 18 kg , the higher rate if Tertraploid

Yes i got 8 bags to go over 14 acres yesterday so should be around 14kg acre

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Yes i got 8 bags to go over 14 acres yesterday so should be around 14kg acre

If your getting a lot of rain a ring role works better

 

[daveydiesel1]

If your getting a lot of rain a ring role works better

Its raining away here these days so gonna try to wait for a dry spell, plan is to disc the stubble and then sow it with a grass seed sower and roll it in after for stones

 

[Conrod96]

Its raining away here these days so gonna try to wait for a dry spell, plan is to disc the stubble and then sow it with a grass seed sower and roll it in after for stones

I hope we get the weather your looking for Davey cause it’s pretty grim atm

 

[Andyrob]

Got some barley stubble that im wanting to sow into either westerwolds or italian to grow over winter and cut early before ploughing to put into spring crops again. Which is best for this as in whats best feed value,tonnage,able to deal with a harsh winter if we get it?

seeing a lot direct drilling rye for the same purpose but like you rain is the problem here