Westerwolds ryegrass

[DairyNerd]

Put in a 6 month westerwold and vetch mix in September, mainly as entry to reseed and to get some quality bales early to buffer with over summer or late Autumn. Never grown westerwold ryegrass before, will cut once as soon as it drys up, will it yield well if grazed until the autumn or am I better to reseed straight away this Spring?

 

[Beef farmer]

Get it cut and gone.

 

[dinderleat]

I’d rather do autumn reseed but with the amount of moisture about you should be ok. Also wether the 8-10 weeks out of production puts you worse of if you waited until the autumn

 

[Tirglas]

Put in a 6 month westerwold and vetch mix in September, mainly as entry to reseed and to get some quality bales early to buffer with over summer or late Autumn. Never grown westerwold ryegrass before, will cut once as soon as it drys up, will it yield well if grazed until the autumn or am I better to reseed straight away this Spring?

She will try to run to seed constantly this year after heading date being autumn sown annual. Could you possibly glyphosate 5 days pre mowing for bales and then DD your long term ley or is that a big no no these days?

 

[Jerry]

I started a thread back in the autumn.

Westerwolds

Westerwolds is new to me, drilled 2 weeks ago after barley. Pic taken couple of days ago and it’s starting to shift now. And been mild and wet last couple days in the balmy south!! How soon do people graze it? Hoping to put ewes on in about 8 weeks.

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Just today I removed ewes and lambs, tomorrow it will get a sniff of N and the plan is to get a cut pre maize going in.

 

[dinderleat]

I suppose you could put turnips/rape or kale for late summer then into autumn reseed

 

[DairyNerd]

I suppose you could put turnips/rape or kale for late summer then into autumn reseed

Could be an idea, only thing i don't like about forage crops in summer is most years you may as well just have grass, having said that last summer would have been great for it and it is fairly dry here.

 

[DairyNerd]

She will try to run to seed constantly this year after heading date being autumn sown annual. Could you possibly glyphosate 5 days pre mowing for bales and then DD your long term ley or is that a big no no these days?

Thanks, not keen on spraying, trying to set up a rotation with prg/clover (+chicory on drier ground), westerwold + vetch for quality buffer, forage rape for over early winter or dry cows. Hoping it keeps weeds at bay. We only have 65 acres though so also can't afford long periods out of production so open to ideas.

I can't believe how the westerwold has grown with the vetch, not had any N at all and it is basically ready to cut.

 

[Jdunn55]

Thanks, not keen on spraying, trying to set up a rotation with prg/clover (+chicory on drier ground), westerwold + vetch for quality buffer, forage rape for over early winter or dry cows. Hoping it keeps weeds at bay. We only have 65 acres though so also can't afford long periods out of production so open to ideas.

I can't believe how the westerwold has grown with the vetch, not had any N at all and it is basically ready to cut.

Get it cut and baled next week if its ready, get it sprayed at the weekend then worked down to a nice seed bed the following week

Drill whatever grass/clover mix you want but put 0.5kg/acre of forage rape is as well.
The rape will act as cover for the grass (like oversowing barley) and give you a decent first graze

Get the qualities of a forage crop without missing out on getting a ley into the ground so no extra time for the ground to be out of production

 

[In the pit]

Or just cut and rough harrow (einbock ) and seed on and roll
Westerwolds will act as a cover and can cut for second cut

 

[DairyNerd]

Or just cut and rough harrow (einbock ) and seed on and roll
Westerwolds will act as a cover and can cut for second cut

Neighbour has Einbock with seeder on so could harrow once without the seed then one pass with seeder? Sounds nice and cheap compared to reploughing it.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Or just cut and rough harrow (einbock ) and seed on and roll
Westerwolds will act as a cover and can cut for second cut

This is what I do ,works realy well as long as it's not weedy , i put Clover Perennial Ryegrass Chicory on
Westerwolds itself will last 12 months then it starts to thin

 

[Tirglas]

This is what I do ,works realy well as long as it's not weedy , i put Clover Perennial Ryegrass Chicory on
Westerwolds itself will last 12 months then it starts to thin

try not let it self seed though or it can hang around

 

[Derrick Hughes]

try not let it self seed though or it can hang around

I'm using Italain now , it's better grass and don't seed first year

 

[som farmer]

got to keep on top of westerwolds, but they will grow back well. We have some drilled onto a tired r/clover ley, hoping to get 2 cuts, before maize, but that's looking iffy.

ran out of seed in a IRG ley, last autumn, and topped up with w/wold, you can really see the difference, ww is ahead of the IRG.

 

[In the pit]

This is what I do ,works realy well as long as it's not weedy , i put Clover Perennial Ryegrass Chicory on
Westerwolds itself will last 12 months then it starts to thin

Shouldn’t be weedy as already done work getting westerwolds/vetch in so just needs easy entrance with the perennials

 

[Headless chicken]

Neighbour has Einbock with seeder on so could harrow once without the seed then one pass with seeder? Sounds nice and cheap compared to reploughing it.

Or just DD it. Less chance of chitting up weeds and conserve all the moisture

 

[serf]

Put some Tornado in in backend and it's going like billyO now , grown all winter

 

[easy farming]

Thanks, not keen on spraying, trying to set up a rotation with prg/clover (+chicory on drier ground), westerwold + vetch for quality buffer, forage rape for over early winter or dry cows. Hoping it keeps weeds at bay. We only have 65 acres though so also can't afford long periods out of production so open to ideas.

I can't believe how the westerwold has grown with the vetch, not had any N at all and it is basically ready to cut.

We've a westerwold ley put in last year on land we thought we would lose. We have it long term now. I was planning to graze off soon and then DD drill a long term prg clover ley into it it if it is clean enough weed wise, which it was earlier.

 

[Kevtherev]

We've a westerwold ley put in last year on land we thought we would lose. We have it long term now. I was planning to graze off soon and then DD drill a long term prg clover ley into it it if it is clean enough weed wise, which it was earlier.

That will work fine do that a lot
Provided docks aren’t a problem