This should be a topic on its own..
Why do we as a species park old folk with NO future in homes and keep them alive, often in less than good conditions
What do farmers earn poll?
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This should be a topic on its own..
Why do we as a species park old folk with NO future in homes and keep them alive, often in less than good conditions
Whilst we may as so often strayed off topic. it seems pertinent to mention we have no nursing or retirement homes. Based upon culture that grannie and grandad supported the children to give them a greater opportunity in life. Yet by tradition when grannie and grandad or Mother or father have physical or financial problems the generation creating money sort things out.
Though I note widespread publicity by western European companies trying to get the money earners to invest in looking after previous generations has not been a commercial sucess it is contrary to tradition and culture. And pensions are £130 per month and a loaf of bread £0.50 pence.
Though I note widespread publicity by western European companies trying to get the money earners to invest in looking after previous generations has not been a commercial sucess it is contrary to tradition and culture. And pensions are £130 per month and a loaf of bread £0.50 pence.
gone up the hill
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- Devon
You earn 40k a year.... BUT how much net profit per old person living in your home do you make on a weekly basis??
And whilst im typing away... why do you hate farmers so much?? are you genuine or just a troll????
Sadly we do not own the nursing home, just run it & most of the profits go up the line. I can assure you that it is not as profitable as it may seem on the surface.
I don't hate farmers, my original question and this subsequent question was raised because of my relatives who moan a lot about how hard it is to be a farmer. To me it seems like farming is quite a good life. The responses on here have made me think, and I do now have some more sympathy, but I still think that farming seems a great life and I am not afraid to say I am jealous of my relatives.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but Townie - I think you should realise that farms are businesses. Profit does not equal farmers wages.
Profit needs to allow for loan repayments, personal drawings, investment.....
Profit needs to allow for loan repayments, personal drawings, investment.....
Walterp
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- Pembrokeshire
Don't listen to 'em, they (nearly all) enjoy farming. And moaning.
Heck! My old man reckoned that most farmers would carry on farming even if they didn't make any money. Which, of course, some of 'em do...
exmoor dave
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bet it would be more than just "some of 'em"
To put you on the same footing as a lot of farmers, try putting up the capitol for the home for free
Headless chicken
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- West Wales
@Townie
Farming is a brilliant job when your making hay while the sun shines.
It's not so brilliant when it's pissing down with rain on a Sunday and your chasing stock that have got out.
It's easy to be envious of farming with rose tinted glasses but I tell you what , I will invite you down to spend a week here with us and you will see why it's so hard.
It's a bit too depressing to work out profit per acre so I will put it into terms you can relate too.
I work on another farm 12 days a fortnight.
I work 90+ hours a week.
My two days off I go back home to work on the family farm.
I earn 18k a year
From this I take a bit under 8k too live off. The remaining 10 goes into trying to grow the family business.
P.s good on you for coming on here. I hope you learn something new and understand a bit more about how important our job is.
Farming is a brilliant job when your making hay while the sun shines.
It's not so brilliant when it's pissing down with rain on a Sunday and your chasing stock that have got out.
It's easy to be envious of farming with rose tinted glasses but I tell you what , I will invite you down to spend a week here with us and you will see why it's so hard.
It's a bit too depressing to work out profit per acre so I will put it into terms you can relate too.
I work on another farm 12 days a fortnight.
I work 90+ hours a week.
My two days off I go back home to work on the family farm.
I earn 18k a year
From this I take a bit under 8k too live off. The remaining 10 goes into trying to grow the family business.
P.s good on you for coming on here. I hope you learn something new and understand a bit more about how important our job is.
Bye heck how much!!!!
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- north yorkshire
Farming does have its good moments and at times is a good life its just we are all too tied up trying to beat the weather ,lower the overdraft and get the work done that we just don't have the time to enjoy it as we would like. That's modern farming I guess......pressure to pay the bills, comply with red tape and do the job as best we can. Some years we make some money others we lose a bit but hopefully we can keep floating and if land prices keep rising plus stock and machinery go up then we are not doing it for nothing in the long run. In the mean time we need to make some profit to keep going or you might as well put the board up before the bank does as you can't go every year losing money unless you got a bloody good well stuffed mattress. Would be nice to have a bit more time to step back and enjoy what we do even if its just to walk the local footpaths and chuckle at the neighbours drilling .
gone up the hill
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- Devon
In all walks of life you will get people who love their work/happy with life and people who hate their work/unhappy with life... the fact your relations are so unhappy suggests that the farming industry isn't for them..
One thing to run someone else's business.. quite another to run your own.... something you don't grasp... I reckon you have serious issues with farmers/ the farming industry and your relations have nothing to do with it.....
Farming is a business like any other... its vast ( rightly or wrongly ) becoming a job and not a way of life...
Farming is a tough job, no doubt about it... and you still haven't answered my question... HOW MUCH PER PERSON PER WEEK DO YOU/ YOUR BOSS MAKE ON EACH AND EVERY OLD PERSON IN THE HOME?? you asked how much per acre we make so now answer the above please...
farmerdave
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- Stranraer
profit per acre doesn't seem objective, annual percent return on investment perhaps???
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- Ceredigion
How much de overdraft has risen is a good indicator
Work hard and play hard but if you play harder that you work then you need to take stock or work a bit harder ,
Work hard and play hard but if you play harder that you work then you need to take stock or work a bit harder ,
Or how much your net worth has altered. Cash isn't always king as an investment for the future can be a good thing. I'm sure Elmsted will disagree as cash is critical for him.
I have always wondered about this. Is ROI different for a tenant than an owner/occupier for the same level of profit?
thats what the grangemouth shyte is over but unite has backed down
Closing the factory is a pretty strong negotiating point! I wonder if the plant was up for closure anyway & Unite were a useful scapegoat.
nah it aint making money and the folks who own it are the cream of the cream at making places like that work they bought off bp who couldnt make a profit there.its a 2 pronged attack sort out all the union arses.then get some dough off the government to keep it going.
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