What is all this Heat in Europe doing to our food supply and should the government and us be worried.

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Conservatives seemed to be indifferent to food security and agriculture (farming the trade as opposed to land ownership, the investment), however if Labour in Wales are anything to go by, they actively dislike farmers and want them to give up. So food security? Who knows?
 

Sheep

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
Sounds like UK farmers are no more clued up on European weather events than the politicians.
Many places throughout Europe have been experiencing temperatures well above 40°C

Our immediate neighbours, stretching from Portugal to Poland, have had a lower than usual temperature and higher precipitation.

The Balkans *I think, have been warmer?



Whilst weather will always be a food supply threat, the immediate threat is not weather but politics (and downright ineptitude).
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
we should be highly delighted.
The UK and EU, have decided that the environment takes priority over food production, and intend to bring on lots schemes, to 'compensate' us, for not growing food.

with shite weather, low prices, and acres going into 'non productive' mode. The supply of home grown food, and the EU's, will shrink.


less product = higher prices.

given the instability of the world, at the moment, shortages might not be so easily imported, all great news for us.

and if anyone still thinks its our 'duty' to feed the nation, think again, we have been treated like shite, so as far as l am concerned, l will willingly produce more, when the price tempts me to do, otherwise, they can sod off.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
partners parents have been reporting 30 plus temperatures from Austria for ages and ages. I am just pleased I don't live there as I can't cope with the heat.
30 plus in Europe in summer, isn't it always like that?
Thought that's why people go there on holibobs.

Wish it was summer here 30 would be nice (y) I hate the cold.
 
30 plus in Europe in summer, isn't it always like that?
Thought that's why people go there on holibobs.

Wish it was summer here 30 would be nice (y) I hate the cold.
Sod the heat, it might be ok if you’ve got nothing better to do but for working in I think I’d rather the cold.
You can dress to keep warm and being active when working will keep you warm but when it’s hot and you’re dripping in sweat it just ain’t nice.
A temperature between 10 and 20 is probably the ideal whilst above 30 or below freezing ain’t too pleasant but as I say, I’d rather take my chances keeping warm in the cold
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Sod the heat, it might be ok if you’ve got nothing better to do but for working in I think I’d rather the cold.
You can dress to keep warm and being active when working will keep you warm but when it’s hot and you’re dripping in sweat it just ain’t nice.
A temperature between 10 and 20 is probably the ideal whilst above 30 or below freezing ain’t too pleasant but as I say, I’d rather take my chances keeping warm in the cold
Fully agree with that. I’ll never understand why people fly off on holiday to places where it’s sweltering. I sweat like a pig nowadays if working physically in temperatures over 20 deg C. Dust sticks and if you need sun oil it just compounds it. Every kind of biting insect seems to emerge. Give me 10 deg C any day.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
On topic, stuff like olive oil is already £15 a bottle due to supply pressures.
I’ve said it before : the impact of climate change or just natural weather patterns (call it what you like) is already upon us. The measures we are being asked to take such as reducing food production to enact carbon capture might be of some tiny impact long term to reduce the warming but they will only worsen shortages caused by the warming that’s already with us.
Everybody is thinking long term.
Nobody is thinking short term.
Where are the plans to build more reservoirs that could well be vital within a decade?
Doesn’t seem to be any, but they are working on carbon sequestration that might have a marginal effect a century from now.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Sod the heat, it might be ok if you’ve got nothing better to do but for working in I think I’d rather the cold.
You can dress to keep warm and being active when working will keep you warm but when it’s hot and you’re dripping in sweat it just ain’t nice.
A temperature between 10 and 20 is probably the ideal whilst above 30 or below freezing ain’t too pleasant but as I say, I’d rather take my chances keeping warm in the cold
I struggle more in the heat if I'm doing nothing, never been a fan of just sitting in the sun, but I find working in heat much easier, as long as you know how to manage it.
Sitting in machines with broken AC on a hot day is a no no though, I'd rather have no cab.
 
On topic, stuff like olive oil is already £15 a bottle due to supply pressures.
I’ve said it before : the impact of climate change or just natural weather patterns (call it what you like) is already upon us. The measures we are being asked to take such as reducing food production to enact carbon capture might be of some tiny impact long term to reduce the warming but they will only worsen shortages caused by the warming that’s already with us.
Everybody is thinking long term.
Nobody is thinking short term.
Where are the plans to build more reservoirs that could well be vital within a decade?
Doesn’t seem to be any, but they are working on carbon sequestration that might have a marginal effect a century from now.
Rightly or wrongly I’m becoming ever more a climate change sceptic or more to the point, man made climate change sceptic as the planets climate has always changed and from what little I understand, we are still technically coming out of the last ice age, indeed I didn’t realise until fairly recently that the planet has been through several ice ages.
The blame for man made climate change seems to be laid at the door of CO2, a gas that is a mere 0.04% of the atmosphere, has been much higher in the distant past of the planet and is absolutely essential to all plant life and hence just about all life , it’s well known that more C02 is good for plant life whilst reductions in CO2 is actually detrimental to plant growth.

All I see are people/buisnesses trying to make money on the back of climate change from people coming around to calculate my farms carbon footprint to selling a myriad of solutions to cut your carbon footprint from heat pumps to wind turbines and a whole host of other things far too many to list.

I’m just not convinced that any of it will make one jot of difference to our planets naturally changing climate which life forms have had to adjust to in the past and will continue to have to adjust to in the future

I’m far more concerned about the effects of micro plastics in just about everything, including even in male sperm apparently and all the various chemicals that can now be detected in our water, they are all extremely new in terms of human evolution and the life span of our planet and even on the off chance that they don’t do us any harm, they sure as hell ain’t doing us any good.
So to my mind, such things are far more worrying than a bit more CO2 in the atmosphere yet that’s where all the main focus seems to be. My only explanation and it’s just a thought without any evidence to back it up is that the focus on CO2 is a deflection from more serious issues affecting our species and our planet and a way of making money out of us…………….but those are the sort of thoughts that get you branded a conspiracy theorist.
 

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