startinghandle
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What is meant when a property advertised for sale is 'Sold subject to agricultural restrictions'.
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What is meant by subject to agricultural restriction?
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Goweresque
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- Location
- North Wilts
It usually means the house has an agricultural occupancy planning condition - the only person who can live in it either predominantly works in agriculture or is retired from the same.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
As i understand it you can have it removed, so what is its purpose? Does it make getting planning permission easier?
Theoretically, it enables a house to be built on farm, for persons essential to the management of the farm, when a planning permission would not otherwise be granted because it would be contrary to the Councils development policies.
Has been much abused by people setting up "farms" and doing the minimum necessary for a period of time, to satisfy the terms of their planning consent, in order to secure a nice country house. They then keep their heads down for a few years after most of the stock have gone, before applying to have the tie lifted to allow them to sell up to "Down from Londoners"
Planning Officers have become wise to this and are now as difficult as possible with even genuine cases.
Has been much abused by people setting up "farms" and doing the minimum necessary for a period of time, to satisfy the terms of their planning consent, in order to secure a nice country house. They then keep their heads down for a few years after most of the stock have gone, before applying to have the tie lifted to allow them to sell up to "Down from Londoners"
Planning Officers have become wise to this and are now as difficult as possible with even genuine cases.
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- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
Not easy to get them removed, depends on local authority. Rarely enforced around here and abuse is likely to be by farmers as much as anyone.
Knocks 30% off sale value at least (recognised figure often quoted by agents)
- Location
- East Sussex
works in agriculture or forestry very often I believe.
is this the house? Or is this ag restriction on land use somehow?
Should be impossible to get Ag ties lifted, and the owner charged double for the enforcement when they're knocked down cos someone was spinning a line.
Plonk a section 106(?) on em at the same time, so they can NEVER be sundered from the land.
(and should they, see my first line....)
Bersterds abusing it have left many of us in limbo with planners who're positive we're just going to sell the house off and make a killing.
(Can you guess where I am with this at the minute?)
- Location
- South Shropshire
Some "Ag ties" also have a local requirement, in addition to the stipulation that the purchaser must be engaged/recently retired from. Agriculture or Forestry.
The way to get them removed used to be to advertise the property for a high price, and then when no offers are received, claim that there is no agricultural demand for said property, and apply to have it lifted.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
matthew
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- Location
- Cornwall, SW England
We were told if an offer - any offer - was received for a property with an ag.tie then there would be no chance of getting the restriction lifted. And if a landowner applied for a new build, not only would the new build incur an agricultural tie, but any property owned by the applicant would have it applied retrospectively.
Was with an agent yesterday who told me that Council are now involving Valuation Office to try and prevent just this scenario.Still is!
In Cambs/ Beds there are a lot of land settlement houses that were built after the war, a small cottage type house and a couple of acres. Most of the ag ties are now removed, who can make a living on a couple of acres?Most of the people living in them had nothing to do with agriculture before the tie was lifted, it just made it difficult if you have poor neighbours and they wanted to cause trouble. The bungalow next door to has had its tie removed, the family farm it was attached to, is now sold up and split.
So in my experience it is possible to get the tie removed, you just have to prove that its no longer needed for agriculture.
So in my experience it is possible to get the tie removed, you just have to prove that its no longer needed for agriculture.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
I had someone turn up at the door saying he'd heard the place was for sale. Not true, but i met him later and he told me he had purchased 'bare ground" without planning permission. I remarked that he was taking a chance if he did not have PP before purchase. He said that was no problem as he was a blacksmith by trade and there was legislation going way back which gave smith's priority as the profession was essential for transport and hence for business.
I've asked various people about this but have never had confirmation or denial. I gather the man did get his PP and built his house, but then brown envelopes are cheap and who knows up here? My neighbour has a three acre farm and has built a 12m x 24m shed to accommodate his four sheep, so what do I know?
I've asked various people about this but have never had confirmation or denial. I gather the man did get his PP and built his house, but then brown envelopes are cheap and who knows up here? My neighbour has a three acre farm and has built a 12m x 24m shed to accommodate his four sheep, so what do I know?