What size plough?

[Kidds]

I want a reversible plough for my Case Farmall 95A, what size would it pull?
My land is mostly level, reasonably light but lots of stones. The stones are river cobble type of things.

I have a 4 furrow Rabe with slatted boards, the tractor struggles to lift it but I feel that is a tractor issue that can be fixed. If it can't manage it does taking off the rear furrows make sense?
No big acreages to do and the Rabe does make a nice job.

 

[Hill Ground]

I was under the impression the rule of thumb was 25hp per furrow, but it's a long way from my area of expertise, so don't mind being corrected!!!

 

[spitfire]

I want a reversible plough for my Case Farmall 95A, what size would it pull?
My land is mostly level, reasonably light but lots of stones. The stones are river cobble type of things.

I have a 4 furrow Rabe with slatted boards, the tractor struggles to lift it but I feel that is a tractor issue that can be fixed. If it can't manage it does taking off the rear furrows make sense?
No big acreages to do and the Rabe does make a nice job.

You would get on better with a slightly heavier tractor

 

[M-J-G]

Generally if a tractor can lift it, it can pull it.
You might struggle with a 4f reversible, but you might get away with it if it's on a fairly short beam.

Taking a furrow off may be a good compromise if the tractor is struggling for lift capacity, if not can you add ballast?

 

[M-J-G]

I was under the impression the rule of thumb was 25hp per furrow, but it's a long way from my area of expertise, so don't mind being corrected!!!

You're probably not that far away, but there are so many variables like furrow width, depth, soil type, gradient and boards that will influence how difficult a plough is to pull.

I find weight and settings much more important than hp, particularly these days where so many small light tractors have more hp than they have weight.

 

[Kidds]

I was under the impression the rule of thumb was 25hp per furrow, but it's a long way from my area of expertise, so don't mind being corrected!!!

Thank you, gives me something to go on and suggests the plough is a bit big for the tractor.

You would get on better with a slightly heavier tractor

You think I should buy another new tractor to suit the plough? A smaller plough is going to be a whole lot cheaper.

Generally if a tractor can lift it, it can pull it.
You might struggle with a 4f reversible, but you might get away with it if it's on a fairly short beam.

Taking a furrow off may be a good compromise if the tractor is struggling for lift capacity, if not can you add ballast?

Not sure why it isn't lifting it, feels like it should but maybe it is just too heavy.
Not many 3 furrow reversibles for sale so changing the 4 furrow I have is a fair compromise.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Thank you, gives me something to go on and suggests the plough is a bit big for the tractor.

no i disagree it should be ok.
ive ploughed 100 's of acres in the past with a nh Tl 90 with Dowdeswell dp 7 and dp8 4 furrows tractor didnt even have have assitor ram(s) either it was Fiat based mind you .
no special weight on the front either ,up hill and down dale. should lift and pull that rabe fine.

My ploughing tractor even now is 100 hp and the plough i use most is 5 furrows.

pretty rare ime to find people who actually know how to get the best from machinery ,not just buy a hew or bigger one .

But drop a furrow off will be fine as well, of you are happier and theres not mcuh to do, swap the depth wheel as well mind, you will enjoy it better possble and what is a a nice job will last a bit longer .

 

[Tarw Coch]

I want a reversible plough for my Case Farmall 95A, what size would it pull?
My land is mostly level, reasonably light but lots of stones. The stones are river cobble type of things.

I have a 4 furrow Rabe with slatted boards, the tractor struggles to lift it but I feel that is a tractor issue that can be fixed. If it can't manage it does taking off the rear furrows make sense?
No big acreages to do and the Rabe does make a nice job.

That tractor should be more than capable of handling a light weight 4 furrow reversible, for many years I ploughed with a MF575 and 4furrow lemken

 

[Barleymow]

I was under the impression the rule of thumb was 25hp per furrow, but it's a long way from my area of expertise, so don't mind being corrected!!!

Think with big modern tractors its 50 hp a furrow, and 250 hp on a 4m power harrow. 100 hp used to be fine for such things

 

[Hill Ground]

Think with big modern tractors its 50 hp a furrow, and 250 hp on a 4m power harrow. 100 hp used to be fine for such things

And remember the tyres need to be plenty wide enough to smash down the furrow wall the wheel is running in so as to remove any chance of a nice finish!!!

 

[KB6930]

Think with big modern tractors its 50 hp a furrow, and 250 hp on a 4m power harrow. 100 hp used to be fine for such things

Slight difference in work rates tho . 20/30 acres used to be a decent day now it's 50+ with plenty ponies up front. I was just speaking to the lad that bought my old 3350 off me he put it in his topper and he was commenting on how looking back with rose tinted glasses isn't always as good as we remember it to be . his usual tractor will be 215hp

 

[Nearly]

The farmall95 won't have assister rams on the linkage. It will start to lift but then give up. 2279kg capacity is not much.
Take a furrow off or buy assister rams.

 

[Gav]

I want a reversible plough for my Case Farmall 95A, what size would it pull?
My land is mostly level, reasonably light but lots of stones. The stones are river cobble type of things.

I have a 4 furrow Rabe with slatted boards, the tractor struggles to lift it but I feel that is a tractor issue that can be fixed. If it can't manage it does taking off the rear furrows make sense?
No big acreages to do and the Rabe does make a nice job.

The 95A should pull a 4 furrow quite happily. Case offer a few different rear lift options on that range, the main difference being whether or not assist or rams are fitted. They can be fitted at a later point in time however and will up your lift capacity by around 15-20% on that tractor.

 

[bravheart]

If you've already got a 4 furrow and making a good job that will be your cheapest option but as mentioned above a lemken can be had with a lightweight beam especially if you need auto reset

 

[David.]

It's about being boss of the job.
3050 has pulled 4 furrow Rabe for years, tiggle off and do 15ac in a day.
6480 with the same plough but with the 5th furrow refitted will do 25ac day easily, and it's not on its knees uphill either.

 

[spitfire]

no i disagree it should be ok.
ive ploughed 100 's of acres in the past with a nh Tl 90 with Dowdeswell dp 7 and dp8 4 furrows tractor didnt even have have assitor ram(s) either it was Fiat based mind you .
no special weight on the front either ,up hill and down dale. should lift and pull that rabe fine.

My ploughing tractor even now is 100 hp and the plough i use most is 5 furrows.

pretty rare ime to find people who actually know how to get the best from machinery ,not just buy a hew or bigger one .

But drop a furrow off will be fine as well, of you are happier and theres not mcuh to do, swap the depth wheel as well mind, you will enjoy it better possble and what is a a nice job will last a bit longer .

We used to pull a 4 furrow dowdeswell autoreset on a mf3070 no problem and a 4 furrow dp8 shearbolt on a 2wd ford 6610 with assisted ram then a 3 furrow auto reset. You should be ok but they don't have the strongest back end

 

[Munkul]

We use a 4 furrow Lemken DL110 with our case jx1100u, just a little bit bigger than your 95 maybe, probably same engine/chassis with a few hp less?

It works well because the DL is shearbolt and lightweight, short beam and 14" furrows, but it doesn't like wet hilly fields, the tractor just doesn't have the traction.

Previous to this we had a dowdeswell dp7d 3 furrow, much heavier plough, don't think we would have managed a 4f dp7. Maybe a 4f dp8. Again, shearbolt protection.

I don't feel the tractor would be suited to anything bigger/heavier at all. The back end on it just isn't that heavily built. It will lift something bigger, sure (I've used our 3m kuhn/accord combi drill on it before) but it's a lot of pain on a lightweight tractor.

I like to have a degree of mechanical sympathy where I can!

 

[Kidds]

It will start to lift but then give up.

That is what it is doing.
I think I am going to try taking off the rear furrow and have a go like that and see what happens.
I don't do a lot of ploughing at all and certainly doesn't warrant much/any investment so may as well give what I have a go.

Thank you all for your comments.

 

[Munkul]

That is what it is doing.
I think I am going to try taking off the rear furrow and have a go like that and see what happens.
I don't do a lot of ploughing at all and certainly doesn't warrant much/any investment so may as well give what I have a go.

Thank you all for your comments.

does the 95a have a single lift assister ram? If so, it should lift to the point where the front end is almost floating...

 

[Kidds]

does the 95a have a single lift assister ram? If so, it should lift to the point where the front end is almost floating...

There's no assistor ram. It managed to lift it enough to clear the ground and enable me to fetch it home from the other farm.
I have a set of weights on the front and the front wheels were a bit light at times. I have concluded the plough is just too heavy for the tractor as it is. I haven't decided my next action but it will be either remove a furrow or get a different plough. I am not spending money changing the tractor to suit the implement, that is the tail wagging the dog.