What size steel for this frame

[massey 6480]

Right lads looking to put up a frame to take 3 ibc tanks to hold water for a volume washer . Want to put them above the wall in the pic below

. Pillars are ipe200 about 18ft apart . What size of steel would I need and how would I brace it . ? Any opinions appreciated

 

[Blue.]

Right lads looking to put up a frame to take 3 ibc tanks to hold water for a volume washer . Want to put them above the wall in the pic below View attachment 485112 . Pillars are ipe200 about 18ft apart . What size of steel would I need and how would I brace it . ? Any opinions appreciated

I take it you don't want any legs ?

 

[Nearly]

What size have you got x how many have you got?


Platform sitting on top of wall, full 18'width.one end supported from vertical post above playform. Right hand end supported onto side wall and angle support to top of corner post.

Just keep welding bits on.

 

[massey 6480]

I take it you don't want any legs ?

Legs aren't an option as its the corner pen of a slatted shed .

 

[massey 6480]

What size have you got x how many have you got?

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platform sitting on top of wall, full 18'width.one end supported from vertical post above playform. Right hand end supported onto side wall and angle support to top of corner post.

Just keep welding bits on.

 

[Forever Fendt]

Right lads looking to put up a frame to take 3 ibc tanks to hold water for a volume washer . Want to put them above the wall in the pic below View attachment 485112 . Pillars are ipe200 about 18ft apart . What size of steel would I need and how would I brace it . ? Any opinions appreciated

How thick is that shuttered wall and is there much rebar in it ?

 

[massey 6480]

How thick is that shuttered wall and is there much rebar in it ?

Wall is 8" thick with only 3 lengths of 13mm rebar along the length of it tied in to the pillars . Would prefer to keep it up from the wall so if a bullock was to rise on another one he wouldn't hit it .

 

[Forever Fendt]

Wall is 8" thick with only 3 lengths of 13mm rebar along the length of it tied in to the pillars . Would prefer to keep it up from the wall so if a bullock was to rise on another one he wouldn't hit it .

would it be ok with bottom of ibc @top of wall level but it will need a 45 deg diagonal underneath

 

[massey 6480]

would it be ok with bottom of ibc @top of wall level but it will need a 45 deg diagonal underneath

Would live with the height of it but could only have a 45 deg diagonal at the rear of it not at the front

 

[dannewhouse]

put the diagonal above the "level" platform for the IBC to sit on rather than below, steel is better in tension than compression. and it increases your clearance.

you could just cantilever it by making a gusset under(or over) the level beam like a roof cantilever. I would advise putting "web stiffeners" into your building either 1 inline with the bottom flat of the H beam (or inline with haunch if underneath) or 2 web stiffeners which I think is excessive. or just use a piece of 50*50 or 75*75 angle at 45 degrees (2 bolts per end?)

you should be able to cantilever it all from the 2 steel legs probably use either a 178*102*19 or 203*102*23 or 203*133*25 the extra cost of the heavier steel will be relatively small (£121 to £131 for 6.2 m length)

the horizontal rail from leg to leg (and from cantilever to other cantilever) doesn't really need to be as strong so could be say 150*75*18 U channel (£106 for 6.2m) is it worth going for H section for the little extra money?

make it very strong the 1st time plenty bolts either M16 or M20 if you make it the full 18ft? you could probably get 4 IBC on there? (you will never say I wish id only put 3 up but I bet you say sometimes could have done with another one!!!)

just out of my own interest I might do a similar project for rainwater harvesting how do you plan to connect the IBCs just T into each with the outlet and it will level them up itself? or only T out of 1 of them and connect the others pretty low down through the side?

 

[dannewhouse]

http://www.csi-products.co.uk/bar-s...zenid=8f4fi3fkakfrusvvfrcqdantp5#.WMrOMIXXLIU

when you look at these I might be "over engineering" the next to bottom layer ie 1st cantilevered leg is rated at 950kg so that's 1900kg per pair and these only look like angle or box welded on no stiffener/brace

for the little extra cost its worth making it plenty strong enough.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Put it outside the shed and just pipe it to where ever you need it.

 

[Bob c]

Right lads looking to put up a frame to take 3 ibc tanks to hold water for a volume washer . Want to put them above the wall in the pic below View attachment 485112 . Pillars are ipe200 about 18ft apart . What size of steel would I need and how would I brace it . ? Any opinions appreciated

could they go above the door in the middle of the shed ,..( guessing there is a door to the left )
could make two L shape brackets which bolt to the up right each side of the door
then some beams which span over the top of the door

 

[Forever Fendt]

could they go above the door in the middle of the shed ,..( guessing there is a door to the left )
could make two L shape brackets which bolt to the up right each side of the door
then some beams which span over the top of the door

If thats the narrowest span between uprights on the gable end that is a good idea

 

[Bob c]

If thats the narrowest span between uprights on the gable end that is a good idea

thanks