- Location
- South Wales UK
So much 2nd hand stuff in dealers yards ,and they dont really want to know about p/x 's - thats why most farmers are trying and sell private if they can ?
What's really going on in the machinery business?
- Thread starter Jim Bullock
- Start date
puntabrava
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- Location
- Wiltshire
This sale in Norfolk last week http://auctions.jupix.co.uk/uploads/1405.pdf returned 60k for a 2013 fendt 724 with 4600 hrs and two years warranty left, i rang a fendt dealer earlier this afternoon about a 2007 fendt 820 with 3600 hrs and he wanted 55k and said thats it. I was rather bemused when i ended the call.
Walterp
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- Location
- Pembrokeshire
Wouldn't you have to have another car, then, purely for private use?
Otherwise, you'd be in the untenable position of saying that you don't have any private use?
- Location
- Forfar,Angus,Scotland
I guess the dealer will be sitting with that one for a long time!
Must have been one of those fendt guaranteed buy back prices!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Its not really the end of the world, as you will use it for some private at some point and would have to give some back when you trade it in.
Walter, for many years 99.9 % of my trips were farm related , it would have been very easy to generate
a paper trail showing the farms car was hired by me on the very occasional private journey
Because the engines wouldn't have been as fuel efficient and as lively as they have been with the cheat software. The software update that they are going to carry out is going to make the car thirstier. It will have to use more fuel to burn off the emissions.
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
Just saw these two news snippets in Profi:
10/2/16:
CNH Industrial, the parent company of New Holland, Case IH and Steyr, saw its net agricultural equipment sales fall by 27.5% to US$11.02 billion last year (US$15.20 billion in 2014).
The concern blames the weakened global demand for tractors (-8%) and combines (-19%), when compared to 2014 levels. The largest drops were recorded in the important North American and Canadian markets where sales of 140hp+ tractors fell by 31% and combines 28%. The Latin American market was also well down; tractors (-27%) and combines (-39%). Closer to home, EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Africa) markets were down 7% for tractors and 7% for combines.
Sales of agricultural equipment in North America and Canada are forecast to decline again this year, with the row crop sector down by as much as a 20%, while EMEA markets are expected to remain flat.
Total 2015 net sales for CNH Industrial (includes construction, trucks and commercial vehicles and powertrain divisions) of US$25.91 billion are down 20.4% on 2014’s US$32.55 billion.
4/2/16:
AGCO net sales fell by over 23% last year to approximately US$7.5 billion. Down on 2014’s US$9.7 billion, and a big drop on the 2013 peak of US$10.7 billion, weakened demand for farm equipment contributed to lower sales across all major markets during 2015. Significantly lower industry retail sales of high-horsepower tractors, combines and sprayers, saw net sales in North America fall 16.3%, and the weakness in the Brazilian economy is largely blamed for the 21.8% decline in AGCO’s South American business.
Closer to home, weaker tractor and machine sales in Germany, Finland, Africa, the UK and Scandinavia, were partially offset by growth in France and Turkey, and overall EAME (Europe, Africa and Middle East) net sales were down by ‘just’ 4% during 2015.
The company expects the difficult global industry conditions to persist throughout this year, with farmers continuing to delay purchases and industry inventory levels being managed down. The weaker demand for farm equipment across all regions and the unfavourable effects of foreign currency translation are expected to negatively impact on the concern’s 2016 net sales which are forecast to decline to around US$7 billion (the lowest level in the past five years).
Looks like Europe is holding up comparably well compared to North and Latin America.
10/2/16:
CNH Industrial, the parent company of New Holland, Case IH and Steyr, saw its net agricultural equipment sales fall by 27.5% to US$11.02 billion last year (US$15.20 billion in 2014).
The concern blames the weakened global demand for tractors (-8%) and combines (-19%), when compared to 2014 levels. The largest drops were recorded in the important North American and Canadian markets where sales of 140hp+ tractors fell by 31% and combines 28%. The Latin American market was also well down; tractors (-27%) and combines (-39%). Closer to home, EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Africa) markets were down 7% for tractors and 7% for combines.
Sales of agricultural equipment in North America and Canada are forecast to decline again this year, with the row crop sector down by as much as a 20%, while EMEA markets are expected to remain flat.
Total 2015 net sales for CNH Industrial (includes construction, trucks and commercial vehicles and powertrain divisions) of US$25.91 billion are down 20.4% on 2014’s US$32.55 billion.
4/2/16:
AGCO net sales fell by over 23% last year to approximately US$7.5 billion. Down on 2014’s US$9.7 billion, and a big drop on the 2013 peak of US$10.7 billion, weakened demand for farm equipment contributed to lower sales across all major markets during 2015. Significantly lower industry retail sales of high-horsepower tractors, combines and sprayers, saw net sales in North America fall 16.3%, and the weakness in the Brazilian economy is largely blamed for the 21.8% decline in AGCO’s South American business.
Closer to home, weaker tractor and machine sales in Germany, Finland, Africa, the UK and Scandinavia, were partially offset by growth in France and Turkey, and overall EAME (Europe, Africa and Middle East) net sales were down by ‘just’ 4% during 2015.
The company expects the difficult global industry conditions to persist throughout this year, with farmers continuing to delay purchases and industry inventory levels being managed down. The weaker demand for farm equipment across all regions and the unfavourable effects of foreign currency translation are expected to negatively impact on the concern’s 2016 net sales which are forecast to decline to around US$7 billion (the lowest level in the past five years).
Looks like Europe is holding up comparably well compared to North and Latin America.
Colin
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- Location
- Perthshire
warksfarmer
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Judging by the latest used machinery mag from Manns (Claas) they aren't worried......
2011 scorpion 7045 vp, 2973 hrs £42,000
2012 scorpion 7030, 4835 hrs £34,000
2011 scorpion 7045 vp, 2973 hrs £42,000
2012 scorpion 7030, 4835 hrs £34,000