Whats the motivation for going net zero?

[SilliamWhale]

Even though it will only exist on calculators

Altruism?

If its financial do those who make money from net zero also only spend their money on net zero things?

 

[Gedd]

To bankrupt the country and import all food

 

[MrNoo]

Course they dont, a new big house in the sun, couple of flash cars and holiday home on the Maldives. Just an utter con, when India and the like start down that path then I may take notice. Although am about to bang some solar panels on a shed so I've made a start!

 

[Two Tone]

Even though it will only exist on calculators

Altruism?

If its financial do those who make money from net zero also only spend their money on net zero things?

Motivation?
Farming is the only industry in the world that is and always has been net-zero!
Everything we do uses photosynthesis.
Why else are we the only industry that can sell carbon credits?

Farming going net-zero is nothing more than another stick to hit Farmers over the head with!
So as far as the rest of the public are concerned, we are not left out and therefore allows them to feel less guilty.



However, there may be ways that we can become even more Carbon friendly.

 

[melted welly]

Even though it will only exist on calculators

Altruism?

If its financial do those who make money from net zero also only spend their money on net zero things?

It’s what the WEF told them to do

 

[Farfrae]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

 

[delilah]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

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All of which makes XR the farmers friend. Yet most farmers see XR as the enemy. It's all very confusing.

 

[BrianV]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

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That is really shocking, where is this from, if beef is to be phased out does that not mean that all dairy products would also disappear or would the beef from dairies simply go into landfill?

 

[serf]

To bankrupt the country and import all food

Not far to go now then , soon be there ....

 

[Muddyroads]

Smoke and mirrors. Puzzles me how becoming net zero is compatible with selling the emperors new clothes carbon credits. Carbon is one thing which should set us apart from every other industry in a positive way.

 

[Two Tone]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

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Interesting chart.

So they want to phase out Beef and Lamb between 2030 to 2049!
The very animals that eat grass where we can’t grow anything else, that are the only animals that can utilise that grass and turn it into food.

Unbelievable!

 

[teslacoils]

Just the current buzzword. Along with regenerative farming. A chance for large estates to flex.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

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That comes from UK FIRES, a bunch of academics at Cambridge who've jumped on the climate change research grant gravy train (to the tune of £5 million of taxpayers money) with very, very, close links to manufacturing. Heck, the bloke who leads it has a background in the production of aluminium. Not atmospheric physics, not climatology. Aluminium. Note how manufacturing doesn't take much of a hit, whilst many other things do? Well, that's because it's a propaganda exercise designed to divert attention from the sector they're associated with.

 

[DaveGrohl]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

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That "plan" has been posted several times on the FF. It remains a desperately sad wet dream for the people who came up with it. It’s drivel, pure and simple. It’s all about money making. But politicians seem to be desperate to take as much drivel on board as possible. We are completely losing the plot as a race.

 

[colhonk]

Sadly it is all a big con by the money men who control the world. people like boris are just guilable fools sucked along into it, and then force it upon us little people who always end up paying for such like.

 

[T Hectares]

It’s a nonsensical dreamt up piece of NFU jargon

 

[le bon paysan]

As capitalism is based on the ridiculous concept of infinite growth in a finite world something needed to be done. So basically it is a global commitment made by the elites to use panic and fear (coronavirus was part of it) as a means to reshape all our economies and laws and move to a new form of capitalism that focuses on net-zero emissions. The plan involves replacing shareholders of big companies with stakeholders (read bureaucrats and climate-change zealots etc.). Replacing small business and private enterprises with big tech and big business.

Democracy and free enterprise go out the window.

Totalitarian government control slides in through the back door.

But hey i'm just the local conspiracy theorist. Even if the plan is out there for all to see. Note 2030 - 2049 "Beef and lamb phased out"

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Is this the UK? Or Europe? Or the world?

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Course they dont, a new big house in the sun, couple of flash cars and holiday home on the Maldives. Just an utter con, when India and the like start down that path then I may take notice. Although am about to bang some solar panels on a shed so I've made a start!

And only cos they were free!

 

[milkloss]

Money. Most other innovative business ideas have got stale, next one is renewable technology and carbon trading etc.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Money. Most other innovative business ideas have got stale, next one is renewable technology and carbon trading etc.

Sure but at a policy level the NFU have decided all farmers should be net zero by 2040 (yes no one asked them) and I just wondered for those who are keen what the motivation is? Altruism I kind of get but wondered if there were any others