Wheat seed rates
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4course
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- Location
- north yorks
12 stone / ac .Would try not sow ww with a low tgw (chicken corn )no energy and will more than likely be very low moisture thus delayed germination .Ive never understood the need for folks to get wound up about seeds/ sq when none ever /rarely know the germination % of the seed they are sowing , that can vary by more than tgw i.e certified seed can have a germination % anywhere between 85 and 100% and yet who ever knows the actual % of the seed they are sowing and then the seed bed and conditions after sowing through to emergence have a significant effect which is unquantifiable at sowing so 12 st it is
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
I’ll have to be honest, I have no idea what TGW is, it’s not something I am familiar with or use.
But - I can tell you the germination % of every batch of seed planted & can give you a pretty good estimation of expected establishment % as well
I am also fairly anal about calibration - if I want ( or a client wants ) 40 kg / ha of seed, I make damn sure that I am putting out 40 kg / ha . . .
Thousand grain weight
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Thank you
We do use that, but express it differently
We do use that, but express it differently
- Location
- Shropshire
325 seeds per m2
- Location
- Shropshire
Drilled some over wintered Costello yesterday bought new last year. TGw of 46. All other overwintered seed (both farm saved and bought new) was over 51 and around 55. Why was Costello so low?
4course
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- Location
- north yorks
without knowing the germination % tgw etc are a waste of time , do folks get informed of the germination rate on bought in seed other than its passed above min standard i.e 85%
There are so many variables throughout the year that trying to hit a specific plant rate come harvest is somewhat optimistic. But it gives agronomists and people who think they more influence than the weather something to talk about. It’s interesting to see what others do though as we only sow at 130kg/ha in September and maybe go up to 160 in October after Sugarbeet. Much more and it tends to get too tall then fall over.
- Location
- East yorks
i have tried drilling at lower rates and as it has to sit cold and wet for the next 6months it really doesn't work for me but maybe if it was a bit kinder land it would be fine. The big seed rates give good plant populations, keeps the slugs at bay and mean i can close the gate till spring
When I eventually sort out the variable seed rate I will go higher in certain parts for the reasons be you point out.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
No spray?
- Location
- East yorks
would like to get it drilled first after the last 4 days of crap, it will get a spray if we can
warksfarmer
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Starting wheat after the 20th Oct and it will be at 600 seeds.
Triticale in the next 10-14 days will be 350 seeds.
Where are u selling that ?
Does triticale tiller more then wheat
A few years ago I wanted to finish a field before the rain came so started at 4am. Due to a combination of tiredness and darkness I managed to start off about 30m to early. So I had a double drilled bit of the field (260kg instead of 130) - I thought it would be interesting to see the difference when combining to took a mental note of the position. It was very obvious until late spring but when harvest arrived the section couldn’t be found. My assumption is that the wheat plant will tiller as to the conditions it is faced with. (Within reason).
Not sure about that , every year we double sow overlaps and headlands , always the best yielding , if you can keep it upright .