Wheat varieties suited to no-til?

[moretimeforgolf]

This autumn will be my first season of dd. I'm looking at wheat varieties and wondering if any are particularly suited to no-til?
I've got some Invicta left over from last year, so am keen to keep things simple and only grow Gp3s.
Is there any point in growing the newest (and dearest!) varieties or should I revert to something like Claire in anticipation of slightly lower yields anyhow?
I anticipate drilling dates about 20th - 30th September - or should I go earlier as the wheat may be slower to get out of the blocks?

Any thoughts welcome.

 

[Richard III]

I don't know if any variety is better than another. However strong tillering varieties can recover much better from any establishment mess ups, such as poor trash management or slug issues that can happen when starting out. J B Diago is excellent on this score and has got me out of jail more than once.

 

[moretimeforgolf]

Yes, good point regarding tillering. I've noticed Invicta has compensated remarkably well from a poor start, whereas my previous variety Solstice wouldn't have done. Cocoon looks to be a candidate for me for the same reason, plus it holds on better in a dry year ... which is the most common weather pattern in my part of the country.

 

[Andrew K]

I like Santiago in the DD slot, tillers well and fills the gaps.Not really an early driller though.

Grafton and Relay maybe better drilled early, and of course Claire.

 

[yellow belly]

I have seen where viscount has performed better in wet conditions than any other variety so it may do better in heavy wetter land in notill

last year it did particularly well on wetter sites and topped the trials

 

[willy]

I like Santiago in the DD slot, tillers well and fills the gaps.Not really an early driller though.

Grafton and Relay maybe better drilled early, and of course Claire.

I reckon that the Santiago doesn't suit late drilling either, I personally think that you can drill it early under no til, as it doesn't get the oxidised nitrogen boost as you get in tilled soils . It seems a bit slow in the autumn but comes into its own in the spring.

 

[Andrew K]

I reckon that the Santiago doesn't suit late drilling either, I personally think that you can drill it early under no til, as it doesn't get the oxidised nitrogen boost as you get in tilled soils . It seems a bit slow in the autumn but comes into its own in the spring.

Agree if using disc drill, but tines mineralise more N.

 

[Jim Bullock]

Nothing to do with wheat but some varieties of maize are better suited no-till than others as the photo shows (courtesy of http://agriculture-de-conservation.com/)
The crop was planted with a six row drill the one row with a variety that was suited direct drilling the other five obviously not.! Its probably the same with wheat varieties..

 

[Badshot]

I am working on the assumption that short strawed varieties are less vigorous and so longer strawed will perform better with more vigour, probably wrongly. This comes from my agronomists observation that DD solstice is definitly shorter than solstice planted with cultivations, so saving some growth regulator.

 

[Joe Boy]

My agronomist has tried some different varieties on a dd farm in a trial. He says Kws Target was noticeably better establishment and good tillering. Not much between the others he has said. Just ordered a tone to grow on so hopefully will be better than my scout which is s but shy when it comes to tillering.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I still find alchemy a decent grower

 

[Feldspar]

I've recently received my trial 3 month TAG membership package. Contained within the material is a report into the performance of different wheat varieties in very wet, wet and dry conditions. The stability of performance across different field conditions I think is important for no-till, in particular when starting off in heavy clay soils where water-logging is perhaps more likely.

 

[combineguy]

Hi

I would have thought that short maturing varieties which are high in vigour would be the best but winter sown varieties maturing dates not as important as they are sown earlier also

Therefore the more harder varieties are better to get over any sowing or climate related issues

 

[moretimeforgolf]

Just thought I'd update. Decided to grow Croft in addition to the Invicta(leftover from last year) . Another group 3 to keep storage simple, also a good tilllering variety but with an earlier maturity to spread the harvest.

 

[franklin]

Claire is a prolific tillering choice, along with possibly the widest sowing window ie late August though to end Feb+ - there must be at least one good day between those!

 

[Badshot]

Gallant has done exceptionally well for me this year, solstice has been no slouch either, and cordiale maybe not so good but still no disaster.

 

[Old John]

Done very well with Invicta two years now.

 

[Jim Bullock]

Another vote for Invicta..it has done well for us over the last two years, good disease resistance and seems to grow away well even when direct-drilled in the spring..