When timber security was also a thing

[JP1]

Just goes to show what the war did for our timber as well as food / farm supplies

We can learn and heed so much from (recent) history

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[Hilly]

Just goes to show what the war did for our timber as well as food / farm supplies

We can learn and heed so much from (recent) history

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My father worked for the forestry commission after the war in the early 50s , he used to describe it as “ White slavery “

 

[nails]

Just goes to show what the war did for our timber as well as food / farm supplies

We can learn and heed so much from (recent) history

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This camp was up near my relations in Scotland.https://scarf.scot/regional/higharf...l-research-framework-case-studies/skibo-camp/

 

[kfpben]

It’s always annoyed me when you see stats like ‘the UK has the lowest tree cover in Europe etc.’ with the inference that it is farmers fault.

Don’t blame me- blame Henry VIII’s and Admiral Nelson’s navy! They were the ones who cleared all the trees round here.

 

[S J H]

It’s always annoyed me when you see stats like ‘the UK has the lowest tree cover in Europe etc.’ with the inference that it is farmers fault.

Don’t blame me- blame Henry VIII’s and Admiral Nelson’s navy! They were the ones who cleared all the trees round here.

1000 oaks for 1 ship

 

[JP1]

It’s always annoyed me when you see stats like ‘the UK has the lowest tree cover in Europe etc.’ with the inference that it is farmers fault.

Don’t blame me- blame Henry VIII’s and Admiral Nelson’s navy! They were the ones who cleared all the trees round here.

Also has anyone been to The Netherlands or Belgium

 

[capfits]

Lumbergills were trained at our place.

Shandford Lodge Training Centre Staff c1944

Photograph courtesy of Freida Murray, Buckie, daughter of Robert (Bob) Allison. This historically

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The ladies used to return, but this has dwindled away as they have passed.
They must have been tough. Many married the Newfies that came to work the woods.

 

[Jasper]

Gran was a lumber Jill she used to delight in telling the tale she was that fit and strong when she wanted some lovin grandad couldn’t get off unless she let him

 

[Treecreeper]

I saw some figures banded about recently that we still import 81% of our timber, with home grown production set to fall from current levels over the next few years.

 

[Flatlander]

Women were a different breed back then. Can you imagine the women’s rights groups protesting if that was even mentioned now.

 

[JP1]

I saw some figures banded about recently that we still import 81% of our timber, with home grown production set to fall from current levels over the next few years.

Like all that imported US woodchip for Drax "to save the planet"

 

[Devil's advocate]

I'm not as anti tree as some.

But we need commercial efficent forestry, not full of weeds & restrictions.

 

[Hilly]

I'm not as anti tree as some.

But we need commercial efficent forestry, not full of weeds & restrictions.

Get your farm planted then .

 

[Om352]

It’s always annoyed me when you see stats like ‘the UK has the lowest tree cover in Europe etc.’ with the inference that it is farmers fault.

Don’t blame me- blame Henry VIII’s and Admiral Nelson’s navy! They were the ones who cleared all the trees round here.

We get accused of the same here in Ireland. But all the millions of trees in hedgerows are conveniently ignored when those stats are compiled. Both UK and here are well up the list if you count every tree. A lot of old forest oak here used for british naval shipbuilding back in the day.

 

[toquark]

As a forester i am passionately pro tree and pro commercial timber sector. It’s vital for our national defence as well as supporting tens of thousands of rural jobs. It also happens to turn a pretty decent, sustainable profit.

As a farmer I recognise there is a balance to be struck. There is more room for more trees in the UK, particularly Scotland, but that should never be at the expense of the best farm land.

I’ve planted a lot of ground over the years and can hand on heart say that land is a) a lot more productive under timber and b) a lot more profitable than it ever was under sheep.

 

[Devil's advocate]

As a forester i am passionately pro tree and pro commercial timber sector. It’s vital for our national defence as well as supporting tens of thousands of rural jobs. It also happens to turn a pretty decent, sustainable profit.

As a farmer I recognise there is a balance to be struck. There is more room for more trees in the UK, particularly Scotland, but that should never be at the expense of the best farm land.

I’ve planted a lot of ground over the years and can hand on heart say that land is a) a lot more productive under timber and b) a lot more profitable than it ever was under sheep.

Often felt guilty when Earnshaws are here harvesting timber, it looks really hard work using a chain saw, day after day.

 

[Hilly]

As a forester i am passionately pro tree and pro commercial timber sector. It’s vital for our national defence as well as supporting tens of thousands of rural jobs. It also happens to turn a pretty decent, sustainable profit.

As a farmer I recognise there is a balance to be struck. There is more room for more trees in the UK, particularly Scotland, but that should never be at the expense of the best farm land.

I’ve planted a lot of ground over the years and can hand on heart say that land is a) a lot more productive under timber and b) a lot more profitable than it ever was under sheep.

Why do we need timber for national security ?

 

[roscoe erf]

Why do we need timber for national security ?

We don’t once we cut out all the dead wood from society

 

[Hilly]

We don’t once we cut out all the dead wood from society

It would appear to me we apparently don’t need steel or food so why anyone thinks we need commercial forestry ?

 

[Hilly]

As a forester i am passionately pro tree and pro commercial timber sector. It’s vital for our national defence as well as supporting tens of thousands of rural jobs. It also happens to turn a pretty decent, sustainable profit.

As a farmer I recognise there is a balance to be struck. There is more room for more trees in the UK, particularly Scotland, but that should never be at the expense of the best farm land.

I’ve planted a lot of ground over the years and can hand on heart say that land is a) a lot more productive under timber and b) a lot more profitable than it ever was under sheep.

I know a few folk who have recently had clear fells done , “ once you pay all the bills fence re plant and sometimes replant again due to deer or rabbits we are out of pocket “ Real life case studies there words no mine , are they lying ?