Where to buy a farm abroad with opportunities to actually farm

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I keep looking and currently am drawn toward South America Chile, Argentina and Brazil. but where else should I be looking?
And who has actually done it and how is it going.
My sister married a Kiwi and has farmed out there for the last 20 years but they no longer have the cheap land and are getting green washed like us
Can you not farm where you are now?

A lot depends on what you want to farm and how big you want to get and of course your current situation.

Also worth remembering that in the UK you have a plan B currently in the form of various government schemes if farming doesn't appeal It also seems like renting land out if you want to is an option as is property development, houses, business lets etc and land is valuable for lots of other reasons in the UK keeping the price up.

Do you want to give that up to risk everything on Ag alone?

Have you travelled much?
 

Wurzeetoo

Member
In my opinion the problem with running away from a problem is You will always be running. I was tempted a few years back to relocating probably 5 years ago. It was going out for a meal with a great family friend that gave me a good shake. He had thought about moving somewhere sunny himself but after He said
“ They get up and put Their boxers on first just like us “ I realised the grass isn’t often greener.

The modern world, no matter how ridiculous is coming for us all. The only option if you fancy is to pick a country its roll out will be delayed by a few years. Or of course make a stand and try to shape the future
 

Iben

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fife
From a farming prospective. India, China, Brazil, Argentina all appear to be supporting and pushing their agricultural sectors for either food security or extra export.

Is Brazil not looking to expand it's arable area by 20 000 000ac in next few years?

Main question is, where would you be happy to live? That has to be top priority.
 

Cotlandfarmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
I keep looking and currently am drawn toward South America Chile, Argentina and Brazil. but where else should I be looking?
And who has actually done it and how is it going.
My sister married a Kiwi and has farmed out there for the last 20 years but they no longer have the cheap land and are getting green washed like us
South America has it's attractions 😉

 

sidjon

Member
Location
EXMOOR
South America has it's attractions 😉

Yep, but them fairly high up on the crazy scale 🤣
 

Lamb's Orchard

Member
Horticulture
Location
High Weald AONB
Relocating somewhere cheaper is fine, providing you don't end up needing to come back and finding you can't afford to do so. Happened to some cousins, sold up in UK, moved to France, had some good years there, but for health reasons needed to come back, struggled to sell in France and prices had not kept pace with the UK. Went from a largish detached house in the UK to a larger place in France complete with holiday let and then ended up in a smallish flat back in the UK after a couple of years of renting as cheaply as they could and/or relying on friends and family till they could eventually find a buyer for their place in France. Also need to consider the political stability of places further afield, only one election or dictator away from a dodgy situation. 🫤
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Holidaying and living in a new country are polar opposites @Danllan is correct , go for 6 months and then decide
Yep you actually have to live somewhere not holiday there before you can decide.
Personally I think if you own a decent amount of land with a house and yard in the UK, you're in pretty good shape.

Not sure I'd risk it on the belief that other countries have it easier or have more freedoms.

Might be OK if you are barely in your 20's but think the OP is mid 40's.
 

nxy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Can you not farm where you are now?

A lot depends on what you want to farm and how big you want to get and of course your current situation.

Also worth remembering that in the UK you have a plan B currently in the form of various government schemes if farming doesn't appeal It also seems like renting land out if you want to is an option as is property development, houses, business lets etc and land is valuable for lots of other reasons in the UK keeping the price up.

Do you want to give that up to risk everything on Ag alone?

Have you travelled much?

Its that little fish in a big pond thing. Some farmers rather fancy being the big fish for a change.

Brown & Co have 44,000ha for sale in Paraguay.....
Unless I am missing something no price. Its amazing scale but you will need deep pockets. This one has a price on it.


Pretty video of the place too
 

Rich_ard

Member
Can you not farm where you are now?

A lot depends on what you want to farm and how big you want to get and of course your current situation.

Also worth remembering that in the UK you have a plan B currently in the form of various government schemes if farming doesn't appeal It also seems like renting land out if you want to is an option as is property development, houses, business lets etc and land is valuable for lots of other reasons in the UK keeping the price up.

Do you want to give that up to risk everything on Ag alone?

Have you travelled much?
I wounder this. Even if you farm in the uk for the interest repayments only after a while your investment is still valuable. Not sure I'd trust every country to be the same. Europe and North America would be my safest bet. Like you say if you just want to say I'm farming x thousand acres the go somewhere cheap but I'd bet the returns are low to go with it.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Its that little fish in a big pond thing. Some farmers rather fancy being the big fish for a change.


Unless I am missing something no price. Its amazing scale but you will need deep pockets. This one has a price on it.


Pretty video of the place too
Deep pockets, the ability to run a large business in a country you probably don't really understand and being able to deal with and employ locals.
Big project, some would thrive on it but certainly not for everyone.

I worry people think the grass is greener on threads like this. TFF is a place where everyone convinces each other they're all hard done to and maybe they are. Maybe it's actually not too bad either and they're only focusing on the bad bits and forgetting the advantages of being in the UK.
 

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