Which Blackgrass control program....

[Neddy flanders]

...has given you 100% control?
There are plenty of dirty fields out there, but also some very clean ones. Is that cultural as well as chemical?
Interested to know others chemical inputs.
Me;
1l/ha Liberator
2l/ha CC National
F/b
0.4 Sunfire peri-em

 

[Bigjon44]

...has given you 100% control?
There are plenty of dirty fields out there, but also some very clean ones. Is that cultural as well as chemical?
Interested to know others chemical inputs.
Me;
1l/ha Liberator
2l/ha CC National
F/b
0.4 Sunfire peri-em

How did yours fair?

 

[tullah]

If I leave a rough seedbed then pre m not so effective on BG.

 

[snarling bee]

Nothing will give you 100%

Do you mean full rate Liberator?
What is CC National?
I assume Sunfire is flufenacet.

I have had good and bad results with all mixes and cultivation strategies.
In general the more money you spend and the more risk you take with late drilling the better the result.
I have bought another plough.

This coming autumn I will be throwing the kitchen sink at it.

 

[Barleymow]

Stubble burning used to

 

[teslacoils]

Proclus + 360g flufenacet. After 3yr grass ley. Was rang before grassing down. Rogued 50ac in a weekend.

One hit, mid October.

 

[Jo28]

Ironically all the fields drilled mid Sept to early Oct around us are the cleanest. There are 2 or 3 fields ivd seen drilled after October that are dreadfull. Maybe the earlier ones got the sprays on in decent conditions.

 

[Old apprentice]

Proclus + 360g flufenacet. After 3yr grass ley. Was rang before grassing down. Rogued 50ac in a weekend.

One hit, mid October.

Would that program be usefull against brome. From my experience to put 360g you would have to use two products most say only240g of flufenacet?

 

[David.]

Luximo/Stomp has done a brilliant job on a dirty field here.

 

[Jo28]

Luximo/Stomp has done a brilliant job on a dirty field here.

Wish we had tried some here to see the difference with crystal + dff + defy followed by flufencet in November

 

[teslacoils]

Would that program be usefull against brome. From my experience to put 360g you would have to use two products most say only240g of flufenacet?

No idea. Don't have brome.

Yes, I mix two products to get 360g.

 

[yellow belly]

Would that program be usefull against brome. From my experience to put 360g you would have to use two products most say only240g of flufenacet?

Depends on the species
some bromes germinate in April

 

[David.]

Wish we had tried some here to see the difference with crystal + dff + defy followed by flufencet in November

It didn't go on until 12.11. following drilling the previous week, TS drilled straight into rolled down ploughing, OK but not great seedbed, no flush of BG worth spraying off, unrolled.
I'm amazed at result, honestly.
Have had some scruffy crops with BG in that field.

 

[HarryB97]

A mix of cultural, chemical, attention to detail and luck! 3-4 year grass leys are the best method here

 

[Lincsman]

Ironically all the fields drilled mid Sept to early Oct around us are the cleanest. There are 2 or 3 fields ivd seen drilled after October that are dreadfull. Maybe the earlier ones got the sprays on in decent conditions.

Because you drill clean fields early and bad fields later.

 

[casemx 270]

I ve been asking myself and others the same question over and over we used Luximo and stomp with a top up of liberator, blackgrass and ryegrass great results then the worst thing happened a wet spring and everything goes mad and didn't really get any meaningful spring herbicide on .Now we have fields full of the stuff.

 

[casemx 270]

Spoke to a guy from a large chemical company at cereals he said a 3 way pre em plus a belt and braces post em with possibly Luximo as a post em .No particular cultivation method any better than the other.Use plenty of water at pre em and nozzles with good also if you use stomp use a good well manufactured stomp type product because they were finding some products were / are superior to others.

 

[Jo28]

Because you drill clean fields early and bad fields later.

No I live next to 2 fields which are normally horrendous. Drilled 3rd week September. Cleanest I've seen them in 5 years. I wouldn't have mentioned it if it was a case of what you pointed out

 

[Hindsight]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1670510001599705089

 

[Badshot]

Zero disturbance. And I mean zero, drilled into stripped linseed straw.

Avadex on the drill and ffct dff pre em.


Not quite 100% but very, very close.
I only got off the sprayer half a dozen times to spot spray BG in a 12 ha mix.