Which mowers ?

[Martyn]

Am I nuts thinking of putting a front & back on 140hp? Rear 3.1m Kuhn

 

[ollie989898]

Am I nuts thinking of putting a front & back on 140hp? Rear 3.1m Kuhn

It will go fine, you'll just have to go a bit slower in a heavy crop. You'll be able to speed up in lighter cuts though. Less turning and slower speed is easier on your neck anyway. Main concern is can you lift and carry them ok. Wider working width but slower forward speed always wins the race.

 

[Sid]

We can run a 3m trailed nearly 50% faster on 140hp through a thick first cut than front and rear on 210hp. The single mower also turns quicker but has to do twice as many so probably spends 50% more time turning.
Conditioners will be partly to blame.

3m trailed about 6.5 acres an hour. Front and rear around 10

Faster hasn't meant more output?

 

[Sid]

Am I nuts thinking of putting a front & back on 140hp? Rear 3.1m Kuhn

No,
Straight mowers will be flat out, conditioning will be slower

 

[frederick]

Am I nuts thinking of putting a front & back on 140hp? Rear 3.1m Kuhn

Flat land fine. But if conditioners increase likely to only be 25-30%
Hills I would question how much you will gain.
I was going to add safety but your used to 3m on the back anyhow.
We have to choose direction of turning quite carefully to keep 4 wheels of a nh t7 210 on the ground.

 

[Grassman247]

I would add Claas and Krone into your selection, in fact I would put them above your current selection.

Our contractors runs claas mowers the cut is awful. They blame the grass being too long but it’s either driver or the mowers but safe to say we are looking at krones

 

[In the pit]

Son runs a set of class triples on a 185 hp jd and says pulls them fine
Biggest issue mowing is the person sat on the tractor

 

[frederick]

Faster hasn't meant more output?

No 100%wider has only resulted in 53% more output.

But lo and behold the bigger tractor only has 50% more hp so output is directly related to hp not width within reason.

Isn't the recommendation 30-40 hp per metre.

 

[In the pit]

A lot of the newer triple setups are being built to run on smaller hp tractors

 

[frederick]

Son runs a set of class triples on a 185 hp jd and says pulls them fine
Biggest issue mowing is the person sat on the tractor

Most contractors around us that would be pushing 15 plus acres an hour out of triples would be running 270-300hp on the front

 

[In the pit]

Around here there all running triples on less than 200 hp

 

[ollie989898]

Most contractors around us that would be pushing 15 plus acres an hour out of triples would be running 270-300hp on the front

But a farmer won't need this level of output will he- he won't be trying to cut thousands of acres in a season and please multiple customers. A farmer can tickle on and cut his own area in good time. I have known people run triples on less than 200hp before (even a 3185 Fastrac), they just won't be bombing along in heavy cuts, which is fine.

 

[vantage]

Around here there all running triples on less than 200 hp

Amazing to see Puma 160s running triples! Somebody is handy with the laptop!

 

[spitfire]

Looking at changing our two trailed mowers for front and rear combo. JD, Pottinger in the mix Kuhn ruled themselves out as ignored us at RFS show.What do you think ?

Kuhn on a downer no after sales or paint

 

[Wesley]

Most contractors around us that would be pushing 15 plus acres an hour out of triples would be running 270-300hp on the front

We’ve got the choice of 724’s & Krone triples or Big M from our contractor. Ask for the Big M if possible, far better cut that we put down to the HP its got.

 

[Gtills]

We 2 claas's and a kuhn and if i was buying tommorow it would be claas. Only bought the kuhn because they make a 4.4m rear mounted mower

 

[rusty]

Am I nuts thinking of putting a front & back on 140hp? Rear 3.1m Kuhn

I run triple moco’s on a JD 6145R. It has had the Derv doctor tune up to 200hp. If doing multi cut you will be fine .

 

[davidroberts30]

Amazing to see Puma 160s running triples! Somebody is handy with the laptop!

same with 7618mfs

 

[dairydurham]

I run triple moco’s on a JD 6145R. It has had the Derv doctor tune up to 200hp. If doing multi cut you will be fine .

What make are your mowers and are they MoCos ?

 

[dairydurham]

Our contractors runs claas mowers the cut is awful. They blame the grass being too long but it’s either driver or the mowers but safe to say we are looking at krones

Same here ,old contractor usedto run a set of Claas mowers and it didnt matter who drove it was always a mess compared to KV or both Krone & Kuhn so much so that we stopped the Claas from coming