Which New Tyres?

Currently pricing up tyres to replace a set of Michelin Axiobibs. 800x70R38 rears and 600x70R30

Waiting on some prices back. Any other brand I should be looking at? currently got prices in for Michelin, BKT, Vredestein.
Have decided to steer clear of Trelleborg because of them going at the base of the cleat and Continental mainly from the tread on here.

500 hours a year, mainly clay soils, no flint. Horsch Sprinter, Sumo Trio (Mounted) and a bit of semi-mounted ploughing make up the lions share of the work.

Current set have done 4500 hours
 
Location
sh!t creek
Had a quote for full set of 650/75 x 38 & 600/65 x 28
Michelin = £9,000
Trelleborg = £7,850
BKT = £4,736
I have a brand new Trelleborg 800/65 x 32 which they bid £1,500
I knew tyres had gone up …….. but not that much :(😭😭
 

Serup

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Denmark
Currently pricing up tyres to replace a set of Michelin Axiobibs. 800x70R38 rears and 600x70R30

Waiting on some prices back. Any other brand I should be looking at? currently got prices in for Michelin, BKT, Vredestein.
Have decided to steer clear of Trelleborg because of them going at the base of the cleat and Continental mainly from the tread on here.

500 hours a year, mainly clay soils, no flint. Horsch Sprinter, Sumo Trio (Mounted) and a bit of semi-mounted ploughing make up the lions share of the work.

Current set have done 4500 hours

Are they already done at 4500 hours with no roadwork? I had a set of machXbib’s on a tractor, 650/85r38 and 600/70r30. With much roadwork, they where changed at 6500 hours because the back tyres started to split the sides. (I have a weighbrigde and let as much air out as possible, knowing they wouldn’t last forever) After 3 times vulcanising them, i decided to change them. That was with about 20-25% thread left.

I liked the Michelins, but i didn’t like the price, so after advice from the dealer, i decided to try vredestein xxl in the same size instead. At the time (spring 2018), they where about 2/3 the price of machXbibs. They are a dream on the road and now at almost 4000 hours, they have about 60% thread left. I like them alot and have ordered a new tractor with them (not instead of the the above mentioned).

The tractor i have sold, have alliance agristar II in the same size. They where put on a similar tractor last spring and now have 1800 hours on them. They have about 50% thread left, and both back tyres have split the sidewalls now. They have been running with more pressure, as i’m not the main driver anymore and the one using them, don’t want to fiddle with pressure everytime he changes jobs. The alliance importer only wants to pay half the price for the tyres, and only by selling me new ones for half the price. If i want something else, they won’t help. Now i have sold the tractor and i won’t touch agristar II again. They where 2/3 the price of vredestein last year and wear much faster, so more expensive to run, and they don’t last in my experience.
 
Are they already done at 4500 hours with no roadwork? I had a set of machXbib’s on a tractor, 650/85r38 and 600/70r30. With much roadwork, they where changed at 6500 hours because the back tyres started to split the sides. (I have a weighbrigde and let as much air out as possible, knowing they wouldn’t last forever) After 3 times vulcanising them, i decided to change them. That was with about 20-25% thread left.

I liked the Michelins, but i didn’t like the price, so after advice from the dealer, i decided to try vredestein xxl in the same size instead. At the time (spring 2018), they where about 2/3 the price of machXbibs. They are a dream on the road and now at almost 4000 hours, they have about 60% thread left. I like them alot and have ordered a new tractor with them (not instead of the the above mentioned).

The tractor i have sold, have alliance agristar II in the same size. They where put on a similar tractor last spring and now have 1800 hours on them. They have about 50% thread left, and both back tyres have split the sidewalls now. They have been running with more pressure, as i’m not the main driver anymore and the one using them, don’t want to fiddle with pressure everytime he changes jobs. The alliance importer only wants to pay half the price for the tyres, and only by selling me new ones for half the price. If i want something else, they won’t help. Now i have sold the tractor and i won’t touch agristar II again. They where 2/3 the price of vredestein last year and wear much faster, so more expensive to run, and they don’t last in my experience.
Yes, down to 20% and some decent cracks in the side walls - haven’t been run at stupidly low pressures either.
 

Serup

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Denmark
Yes, down to 20% and some decent cracks in the side walls - haven’t been run at stupidly low pressures either.

I know a farmer who went from machXbib to axiobib on a tractor used much with a big slurry tanker, with a lot of roading. He was really impressed with how much better the axiobibs lasted. So that seems strange with the use you mentioned. Axiobib is a very expensive tyre.
 

BRB John

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
I'm also surprised your considering changing the tyres. Mine are currently 7 years old and 7000 hours and new tyres aren't even on the horizon yet.
So unless you've got money to burn or there's something wrong with them I can't see why you'd change, the tread can't be gone surely?

But anyway my vote would be with BKT or Michelin....

Has anyone got any experience of Nokian tyres?
 
I'm also surprised your considering changing the tyres. Mine are currently 7 years old and 7000 hours and new tyres aren't even on the horizon yet.
So unless you've got money to burn or there's something wrong with them I can't see why you'd change, the tread can't be gone surely?

But anyway my vote would be with BKT or Michelin....

Has anyone got any experience of Nokian tyres?
Down to 20%. Splits in the side walls. Puncture in one of the rears the other day from one of these splits.

Could major repair them, but is it economical on 20% tyres when the price of new tyres are going up and up? It’ll need a new set on at some point, which will be the last set before the tractor is changed so why wait and spend the money on the major repairs and get maybe another year out of them to find the price of a new set has gone up in value by the cost of the major repair?
Looking at prices in so far, Michelins won’t be going back on.
 
I'm also surprised your considering changing the tyres. Mine are currently 7 years old and 7000 hours and new tyres aren't even on the horizon yet.
So unless you've got money to burn or there's something wrong with them I can't see why you'd change, the tread can't be gone surely?

But anyway my vote would be with BKT or Michelin....

Has anyone got any experience of Nokian tyres?
I had a set of trelleborgs fecked at 2500 hours on my old tractor so 7000 is quite impressive 😂
 

Michael S

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Matching Green
I'm also surprised your considering changing the tyres. Mine are currently 7 years old and 7000 hours and new tyres aren't even on the horizon yet.
So unless you've got money to burn or there's something wrong with them I can't see why you'd change, the tread can't be gone surely?

But anyway my vote would be with BKT or Michelin....

Has anyone got any experience of Nokian tyres?
I think you would be surprised how much tyre wear varies according to soil type. I have never forgotten going 30 years ago to look at a machine in a farm sale in Hampshire, I can't remember what, but I have never forgotten the state of the tyres on the combine in the sale which looked just about torn out due spending its whole life harvesting on hills covered with flints. The little I know about Aberdeenshire soils I imagine tractor tyres there live a charmed life there.
 

BRB John

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
I think you would be surprised how much tyre wear varies according to soil type. I have never forgotten going 30 years ago to look at a machine in a farm sale in Hampshire, I can't remember what, but I have never forgotten the state of the tyres on the combine in the sale which looked just about torn out due spending its whole life harvesting on hills covered with flints. The little I know about Aberdeenshire soils I imagine tractor tyres there live a charmed life there.
Well I'm not sure about tyre wear but the soil can fairly chew through metal no problem at all. 🤣😭
 

Ali_Maxxum

Member
Location
Chepstow, Wales
We were so impressed with the Continentals that came on our one tractor when we wore the rears out (5600hrs with a shed load of road work) we put Mitas (bought out the Continental agri tyres iirc) back on. Fronts are still going at 6700hrs and it spends a lot of time carrying weight on the front.
 

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