Whole barley to sheep

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  1. Tomtrac

    Tomtrac Member

    Penrith cumbria
    I have a customer wanting to feed his sheep mainly his tups barley
    Do i need to crush it
    i am sure i have heard farmers feeding un crush ie whole barley and the sheep braking it down them selves any advise would be much appreciated
  2. dunk999

    dunk999 Member

    No need to touch it feed it whole but be careful to gradually introduce them to it and step up quantity’s over a period.
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  3. cattleman123

    cattleman123 Member

    Be very careful with barley..i bet there is a lot of stockman on here who through their farming life have killed sheep with whole barley ...myself included..high value tups ..don't feed..buy some proper ram mix
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  4. Poorbuthappy

    Poorbuthappy Member

    Not had a problem with whole barley, personally I'd be more concerned about rolled barley.
    But as above, introduce gradually.
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  5. CornishRanger

    CornishRanger Member

    Whole Barley "should" be safe enough, they can't break it down fast enough to kill themselves in theory, for the same reason a fair percentage (up to 20% IIRC) may pass though undigested. I used it whole for years without any problems.
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  6. bosses son

    bosses son Member

    They will die if they get too much too quickly. Needs gradual introduction.
  7. 99 % of Australia would use whole barley or oats in lick feeders, or as you call them 3 in 1.

    We would have also dropped a million tonnes on the ground with trail feeders...

    Introduce slow, wean slow...

    You can even use wheat contrary to belief...

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  8. CornishRanger

    CornishRanger Member

    Yes, as with any change in diet should be gradually introduced
  9. I crush all mine
  10. CornishRanger

    CornishRanger Member

    How do you feed it? As part of a mix? What inclusion rate/how much per head?
  11. Slowly keep adding More and more with cake it takes a few week to get them on add lib barly
  12. collie

    collie Member

    Treat it with urea then you can feed as much as you like as soon as you like, it’s the safest way to feed cereals.
  13. spin cycle

    spin cycle Member

    north norfolk
    :eek::eek:.....for sheep:eek::eek:.....thought you had to be careful with urea and sheep

    bit of beet pulp mixed in with barley helps rumen
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  14. cull cows

    cull cows Member

    Iv been thinking of trying feeding a pen of bullocks with barley treated with urea.i just don’t have the nerve to fill the trough and leave them to it
  15. collie

    collie Member

    We’ve fed it for the last few years to both cattle and sheep never had a problem
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  16. andybk

    andybk Member

    Mendips Somerset
    they can i lost 15 ewes that broke into a grainstore for a few hours long time back , even oats can give problems , that said whole barley or and oats with soya or wheat distillers is the mainstay of what we feed everything ,
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  17. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Oats would be far better
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  18. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Get hold of some maize glutton wheatfeed anything that's high in fibre not to much starch. Get them on that first then start mixing barley with it
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  19. spin cycle

    spin cycle Member

    north norfolk
    i had some get in my grainstore in spring....none died but now they break out and run back to it:banghead::banghead:

    washed it out last week....left the doors open over night....next morning found 2 ewes in there:banghead::banghead::banghead:

    i'm truly the worst sheep farmer on here:rolleyes:
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  20. , Even whole oats will kill them if they get at it and pig, grain store door not shut properly, sheep in yard etc.… been there done that got the tee shirt.
    bit wrong as a generalisation the '20% passing through '...………. moisture content will affect it .....with drier grain not so good as 16 or 17% moisture even (never mind the storage problem with that :rolleyes:.)
    The odd older animal will 'pass it through' as well. Whatever.... if there is some lost it can be put against processing costs of rolling etc imo. anyway.
    bit of difference in palatability in that they like bruised or ground grain even I suppose it hits there taste buds better possibly.

    3 in 1 feeders are expensive and ime I end up opening them up to add lib with oats. they are good though for feeding wheat if you but even then I mix wheat with oats as an extra bit of safety.
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