Why Are Young People Not Learning Trades/Skills?

[czechmate]

Nope Blair..
Wanted all uk kids going to uni while he opened the border to cheap tradesman labour from Europe..
Still a problem now, plenty of cheap immigrant labour so keeps wages down.

you must go down well supporting thatcher in the old mining towns

 

[Wood field]

It has not.
My local school does rural skills and I have the kids out at my place.
You could do the same to offer young ones the opportunity.

I was referring to the secondary school I went to , there was an old mansion house surrounded by the sports fields, that is where home economics, rural studies and our engineering science was held , it’s all been sold off long ago , in fact the adjacent “ lower school “is now a housing estate

 

[Pistonbroke]

My daughter did textile conservation, I was a bit dismissive about it but that , History etc can land some very interesting jobs ( if somewhat niche)

Are they teaching/ education type jobs?

 

[TelesnaAg]

Mike Rowe in usa talks alot about this and i think he is spot on.

Ant...

 

[delilah]

If you got kids coming regular, then you set up for it.
Just seems to many hazards about to have the stress of being sued for slipping on something and injuring themselves.

But even if I did pay the insurance, what can they do if not allowed to go near a machine or livestock?
Sweep the yard..?

There is insurance available through national bodies focusing on this sort of stuff, though would expect your regular insurer to be as competitive.

I would be querying any guidelines that say they can't go near livestock. Ours put their hands everywhere that a kid growing up on a livestock farm would.

 

[Wood field]

Are they teaching/ education type jobs?

Daughter does textile conservation in stately homes , she is self employed doing it with friends from uni , surprisingly she was a real chemistry boffin and that’s used with carbon dating and in the preservation of artifacts
my son did History and archeology, but neither of them wanted to teach , he is now in retail management

 

[Vader]

And thats because they’ve learned nothing useful some of these courses have no practical future, just my opinion

Exactly. That's why the education system is a mess.
Proper degrees like science, medicine and engineering should be free.
Pointless ones charge double.

 

[kiwi pom]

they will learn these skills when AI takes there office jobs …….. within the next 2-5years max

proper manual trades will be pretty much the ONLY employment soon

I'm not sure AI will completely replace anyone, it's just a tool that can help with things. Having said that I agree that that tool will be used more in the high tech, high skilled jobs and we will always need more basic trade-based manual/shite jobs.

With that said, what trade are your kids going into?

 

[Still Farming]

you must go down well supporting thatcher in the old mining towns

All those against Maggie in the miners strikes of the 80's nearly all vote Tory in the last General Election.
Maggie must of been laughing her cock off up there.

 

[Vader]

There is insurance available through national bodies focusing on this sort of stuff, though would expect your regular insurer to be as competitive.

I would be querying any guidelines that say they can't go near livestock. Ours put their hands everywhere that a kid growing up on a livestock farm would.

But why should I pay the insurance? School or government should.

We had beef cattle. School kids would not be allowed into shed to help calve cow. Would not be allowed to drive teleporter to feed or bed down. So what could they do apart from look at them?

 

[Wood field]

But why should I pay the insurance? School or government should.

We had beef cattle. School kids would not be allowed into shed to help calve cow. Would not be allowed to drive teleporter to feed or bed down. So what could they do apart from look at them?

We’ve had a few here , but 6th form age , two are coming next week as first year vet students , they were a breath of fresh air to be honest

 

[ford 7810]

Good luck teaching.
You deserve every penny.
Stories my kid tells me about lack of respect for teachers now means they deserve all the pay they get.
Same as police..
Could never pay me enough to do either job.

Same as Police I haven’t got any trust or respect in them either.or anyone who has authority or think they have for that matter.but that might be just me

 

[Wood field]

Same as Police I haven’t got any trust or respect in them either.or anyone who has authority or think they have for that matter.but that might be just me

We were brought up to show respect but it’s a two way thing, you earn it don’t expect it

 

[czechmate]

All those against Maggie in the miners strikes of the 80's nearly all vote Tory in the last General Election.
Maggie must of been laughing her cock off up there.

hmm, we will see later in the year

 

[kiwi pom]

Nearly everyone ive asked to do a "job" is at or over retirement age, busy as hell? Examples, metal worker/welder, blacksmith, motorcycle dent, classic bike painter, thatcher, motorcycle seat recoverer, maker, etc etc etc? Just named a few, i bet others can name many other skills/ trades, that are crying out for young people, who dont want an "academic" education, but a skill, money is often secondary to you just cant get them? Its like that currant TV programme, restorers the professionals, rehopostry, wood working, using a "english wheel" to create metal panels, panel beating, all these trades/skills are still in demand so why are not young people taking them up as a way to earn a living, rather than as a hobby for retired professionals?

I'm curious, you have a very dim view on people and society today, what do you and your kids (if you have any) do?


Had a quick Goggle 750 thousand people were participating in an apprenticeship in England in the 22/23 academic year, 337 thousand of those were starts.

Interestingly nearly half of all starts in that time were by people 25 and over.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06113/

 

[delilah]

But why should I pay the insurance? School or government should.

We had beef cattle. School kids would not be allowed into shed to help calve cow. Would not be allowed to drive teleporter to feed or bed down. So what could they do apart from look at them?

Thin ice time........for many of us on here, it would, in effect, be the Government paying it. It's not much in the scheme of things.

It's a big jump from saying a school kid can't help calve a cow, to saying it isn't possible for them to do any livestock work.

 

[Still Farming]

hmm, we will see later in the year

Past not present.

 

[Still Farming]

Thin ice time........for many of us on here, it would, in effect, be the Government paying it. It's not much in the scheme of things.

It's a big jump from saying a school kid can't help calve a cow, to saying it isn't possible for them to do any livestock work.

Unless they google it possibly???

 

[Bogweevil]

Well I think they are, my employer is subject to apprenticeship levy and it pays us to get our money's worth by training many apprentices each year to level2.over two years. Currently recruiting next batch with four applicants for every place.

 

[Vader]

Thin ice time........for many of us on here, it would, in effect, be the Government paying it. It's not much in the scheme of things.

It's a big jump from saying a school kid can't help calve a cow, to saying it isn't possible for them to do any livestock work.

So what work could they do with beef sucklers?