Why Britain has stagnated

[nxy]

I was going to post this under Politics but that appears to now be a place where only Brexiteers and those that want to argue with them go.
If the mods think think this needs moving, I apologise and please do move it.

Foundations

Why Britain has stagnated

ukfoundations.co

I think this deserves a wider audience and sums up a lot of the UK's problems very neatly.
Some of you will accuse me of bashing my old country but fortunately I have a thick skin.

 

[soapsud]

I was going to post this under Politics but that appears to now be a place where only Brexiteers and those that want to argue with them go.
If the mods think think this needs moving, I apologise and please do move it.

Foundations

Why Britain has stagnated

ukfoundations.co

I think this deserves a wider audience and sums up a lot of the UK's problems very neatly.
Some of you will accuse me of bashing my old country but fortunately I have a thick skin.

Have you thick skull too?

 

[Hindsight]

I was going to post this under Politics but that appears to now be a place where only Brexiteers and those that want to argue with them go.
If the mods think think this needs moving, I apologise and please do move it.

Foundations

Why Britain has stagnated

ukfoundations.co

I think this deserves a wider audience and sums up a lot of the UK's problems very neatly.
Some of you will accuse me of bashing my old country but fortunately I have a thick skin.

Are not some of the authors supporters of Brexit. Robert Colville in his column in yesterdays Sunday Times was referencing this pamphlet and he is if I recall a staunch Tory Leaver. And this document goes beyond leaving the EU. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[soapsud]

Just skim read it. Londonstan is where the money is. Wealth is financialised not used for productivity. Therefore the country's going to the dogs.
Fair enough?

 

[Yale]

I think maybe it is not that we have stagnated in a way, it’s just we don’t seem to have progressed. Asian countries have romped ahead wealth wise as they have had younger populations, however even some of those are now suffering from an aging population. An ageing population is a big drag on this country now and behind the scenes I think government have been paying lip service to immigration because it supplies workforce. Problem is the situation seems to be out of control and having a detrimental effect on our society.

 

[Hindsight]

Just skim read it. Londonstan is where the money is. Wealth is financialised not used for productivity. Therefore the country's going to the dogs.
Fair enough?

The culmination of Thatcherism - The Conservative Party legacy from 1979.

 

[Wellytrack]

I thought it was because weetabix consumption was down.

 

[essex man]

I was going to post this under Politics but that appears to now be a place where only Brexiteers and those that want to argue with them go.
If the mods think think this needs moving, I apologise and please do move it.

Foundations

Why Britain has stagnated

ukfoundations.co

I think this deserves a wider audience and sums up a lot of the UK's problems very neatly.
Some of you will accuse me of bashing my old country but fortunately I have a thick skin.

Just the usual cherry picking of stats.
This stuff is written for people who will read and buy it, they already believe it.

Britain is no more stagnated than anywhere else.
Saying you didn't want to put in politics section for nonsense reasons doesn't help your cause.
Clearly it belongs in the "brexit is destroying britain" thread but would be lost in all the other similar anti-brexit sentimental whining.
Feel free to bash away, it's more a faint tapping than a bashing

 

[soapsud]

The culmination of Thatcherism - The Conservative Party legacy from 1979.

How would you define financialisation in farming terms? I'd say it's abstraction like water from a well whilst naively trusting the rainfall and aquifer will either look after itself or will be a headache for the next generation.

 

[fgc325j]

I was going to post this under Politics but that appears to now be a place where only Brexiteers and those that want to argue with them go.
If the mods think think this needs moving, I apologise and please do move it.

Foundations

Why Britain has stagnated

ukfoundations.co

I think this deserves a wider audience and sums up a lot of the UK's problems very neatly.
Some of you will accuse me of bashing my old country but fortunately I have a thick skin

There was an article that i read last week that pointed out that a large proportion of 20-30 year ollds admitted to being "unambitious". They had the
attitude that if they were contracted to work an 8 hour day - they would work those hours, and didn't want to answer work emails later on in the evening.
I think this country has lost a fair bit of "the get up and go" which we had 40 odd years ago.

 

[Pilatus]

I think maybe it is not that we have stagnated in a way, it’s just we don’t seem to have progressed. Asian countries have romped ahead wealth wise as they have had younger populations, however even some of those are now suffering from an aging population. An ageing population is a big drag on this country now and behind the scenes I think government have been paying lip service to immigration because it supplies workforce. Problem is the situation seems to be out of control and having a detrimental effect on our society.

I partly agree t

I think maybe it is not that we have stagnated in a way, it’s just we don’t seem to have progressed. Asian countries have romped ahead wealth wise as they have had younger populations, however even some of those are now suffering from an aging population. An ageing population is a big drag on this country now and behind the scenes I think government have been paying lip service to immigration because it supplies workforce. Problem is the situation seems to be out of control and having a detrimental effect on our society.

Partly agree that an aging population may be part of the problem, but I have to say that some youngsters and some not so young think they are entitled to a high wage /standard of living, without being prepared to put their job first what ever that may be. So that can lead to stagnation .
I rest my case and will leave it at that.I am 73.

 

[yoki]

Clearly it belongs in the "brexit is destroying britain" thread but would be lost in all the other similar anti-brexit sentimental whining.

Nailed it!

 

[nxy]

Just the usual cherry picking of stats.
This stuff is written for people who will read and buy it, they already believe it.

Britain is no more stagnated than anywhere else.
Saying you didn't want to put in politics section for nonsense reasons doesn't help your cause.
Clearly it belongs in the "brexit is destroying britain" thread but would be lost in all the other similar anti-brexit sentimental whining.
Feel free to bash away, it's more a faint tapping than a bashing

I don't think you can have even tried to read it if you are saying that.

 

[Spud]

Blair knackered the work ethic of the country when he dumbed down degrees saying everyone is pretty much entitled to one.
Consequently, instead of hard working people in their early 20's buying their first house before they're 25 as used to be the case, today's young people come out of uni with a degree in something miscellaneous, 40 grand of debt and no work ethic. They've made themselves unemployable.

Selling off the coal mines, steel works and oil rigs doesn't help either

 

[Henarar]

It hasn't, its still moving with the tectonic plate

 

[nxy]

Nailed it!

This is about underinvestment, crumbling infrastructure and a failure to reform many government run organisations if you would bother to read it. Brexit is barely mentioned and this doesn't belong in a tread about it.

 

[Spud]

This is about underinvestment, crumbling infrastructure and a failure to reform many government run organisations if you would bother to read it. Brexit is barely mentioned and this doesn't belong in a tread about it.

Short term thinking sums the job up - with no consideration of consequences

 

[nxy]

Short term thinking sums the job up - with no consideration of consequences

It does seem to be a factor that in recent times British politics has been dominated by those unwilling to take hard decisions so much of the reforms have been put off to a later date.

 

[yoki]

This is about underinvestment, crumbling infrastructure and a failure to reform many government run organisations if you would bother to read it.

So should be in the "politics" section then.

Pretty sure @Bald Rick would agree!

 

[Henarar]

I think this deserves a wider audience and sums up a lot of the UK's problems very neatly.
Some of you will accuse me of bashing my old country but fortunately I have a thick skin.

ever read about the boy that cried wolf ?