Why should we repatriate “U.K. nationals”?

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
I understand when we as a country have sent people abroad to act for us eg troops, diplomats etc and we should make every effort to help these people if things go pear shaped in the country that they are in. However why should we (taxpayers) help passport holders to return to the U.K. if they chose to go to a foreign country to work, holiday or visit family? No one made them and I don’t see why in many instances they are deserving of government help.
 

abitdaft

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Location
Scotland
I understand when we as a country have sent people abroad to act for us eg troops, diplomats etc and we should make every effort to help these people if things go pear shaped in the country that they are in. However why should we (taxpayers) help passport holders to return to the U.K. if they chose to go to a foreign country to work, holiday or visit family? No one made them and I don’t see why in many instances they are deserving of government help.

Human decency ?
 

Bongodog

Member
What about the ex royal marine who started a dog sanctuary in Afghanistan, not only does he expect repatriation by the UK government, but also for his norwegiam wife and his 68 afghan staff. It must be a huge dog sanctuary to have 68 staff and why start a fog sanctuary in a country that doesn't even respect basic human rights let' alone dogs
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I understand when we as a country have sent people abroad to act for us eg troops, diplomats etc and we should make every effort to help these people if things go pear shaped in the country that they are in. However why should we (taxpayers) help passport holders to return to the U.K. if they chose to go to a foreign country to work, holiday or visit family? No one made them and I don’t see why in many instances they are deserving of government help.
Because they or their parents have paid their taxes and it's all part of what we pay them for. (y)
 

hel123

Member
What about the ex royal marine who started a dog sanctuary in Afghanistan, not only does he expect repatriation by the UK government, but also for his norwegiam wife and his 68 afghan staff. It must be a huge dog sanctuary to have 68 staff and why start a fog sanctuary in a country that doesn't even respect basic human rights let' alone dogs

Most probably he is a contractor and the dog sanctuary is a front.

Just the first thought that came to mind, but that may just be me
 
I understand when we as a country have sent people abroad to act for us eg troops, diplomats etc and we should make every effort to help these people if things go pear shaped in the country that they are in. However why should we (taxpayers) help passport holders to return to the U.K. if they chose to go to a foreign country to work, holiday or visit family? No one made them and I don’t see why in many instances they are deserving of government help.


One of the main reasons we pay taxes to the UK government is for protection. If the UK government cannot protect it's citizens then we don't have a government, we have parasites.

I think you'd have a point asking why the UK government was in Afghanistan for so many years and why so much money was spent on what has turned out to be pointless policies.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
it surely depends on the risk and the reason they were there.
However the FO won't repatriate you for free and you will be charged costs. Your passport will be confiscated until these costs have been paid.
Virtually all of those fleeing Afghanistan now with a UK passport will have been issued one in the last few weeks because they were aiding the UK mission in the country , which now means they are at extreme risk to their lives.
As someone who has been involved in the repatriation of a UK citizen who was involuntarily held captive I can assure you the FO does sweet FA in reality.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
it surely depends on the risk and the reason they were there.
However the FO won't repatriate you for free and you will be charged costs. Your passport will be confiscated until these costs have been paid.
Virtually all of those fleeing Afghanistan now with a UK passport will have been issued one in the last few weeks because they were aiding the UK mission in the country , which now means they are at extreme risk to their lives.
As someone who has been involved in the repatriation of a UK citizen who was involuntarily held captive I can assure you the FO does sweet FA in reality.
May be true in some cases, but I know of several in which the UK Embassy / HC pulled out the stops and got our people out of very unpleasant situations very quickly, sometimes with purely civil help, sometimes with more.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I understand when we as a country have sent people abroad to act for us eg troops, diplomats etc and we should make every effort to help these people if things go pear shaped in the country that they are in. However why should we (taxpayers) help passport holders to return to the U.K. if they chose to go to a foreign country to work, holiday or visit family? No one made them and I don’t see why in many instances they are deserving of government help.
I was told, before I went to work in Iran for my employer, that if things went wrong, I’d be on my own. I didn’t have to go. Ironically it was Russians that got us in and out in a Yak40. Couldn’t even make a phone call back to U.K, despite best efforts of the Iranians.
But in Afghanistan people have had the rug pulled from under them by an idiotic decision beyond their control so yes I do think we should help them.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
When there was post election violence here in 2010 we were told the British government would repatriate us if necessary but we’d have to pay them back. Also because my wife has a Kenyan passport she couldn’t come with me.
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
When there was post election violence here in 2010 we were told the British government would repatriate us if necessary but we’d have to pay them back. Also because my wife has a Kenyan passport she couldn’t come with me.
There is a moral in the story. Stay where you are meant to be and let the others get on with it, I have relations who have, for financial gain, jeopardised the future of their kids and the safety of themselves. They are adrenaline junkies with a death wish in my opinion but then I am boring.
 
There is a moral in the story. Stay where you are meant to be and let the others get on with it, I have relations who have, for financial gain, jeopardised the future of their kids and the safety of themselves. They are adrenaline junkies with a death wish in my opinion but then I am boring.


I don't understand the push by Politicians and others to destroy the family. But I guess some people make a lot of money out of the fallout.
 

toquark

Member
I have no trouble repatriating british nationals, if they find themselves in bother regardless of the circumstances. Its part of the reason why we pay tax and have embassies & a foreign office.

The only exception being when they choose to leave to join a fighting force which is acting against us (thinking of Shamima Begum & other jihadists). They can go f**k themselves.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
There is a moral in the story. Stay where you are meant to be and let the others get on with it, I have relations who have, for financial gain, jeopardised the future of their kids and the safety of themselves. They are adrenaline junkies with a death wish in my opinion but then I am boring.
I take from that you're not into Bozza's mantra of 'Global Britain'
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
There is a moral in the story. Stay where you are meant to be and let the others get on with it, I have relations who have, for financial gain, jeopardised the future of their kids and the safety of themselves. They are adrenaline junkies with a death wish in my opinion but then I am boring.

And what dictates "where you are meant to be"?
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
And what dictates "where you are meant to be"?
Your culture and interests more than anything else. I feel I could have settled in NZ, Canada, Australia and parts of Northern Europe but beyond that I would not adapt. I certainly would give all of Asia , southern Europe, USA and South America a wide berth.
My basic philosophy is that integration is the key and if you fail to integrate fully you are not worthy to live in someone else`s country and should expect no favours and stay away..
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
There is a moral in the story. Stay where you are meant to be and let the others get on with it, I have relations who have, for financial gain, jeopardised the future of their kids and the safety of themselves. They are adrenaline junkies with a death wish in my opinion but then I am boring.
What a dull life it would be if we never ventured further than the road end. The future of my kids has been greatly enhanced by my wandering however I don’t think the British government has any need to look after me.
 

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