Will No till put paid to the plough ? asks a piece in the FT.

[Bury the Trash]

Will no-till farming put paid to the plough?

The claimed benefits for minimising soil disturbance come with significant downsides

www.ft.com

we havnt had a good ploughing vrs DD dust up for awhile it all seems dominated by the politics of rt nfu et al

 

[melted welly]

Will no-till farming put paid to the plough?

The claimed benefits for minimising soil disturbance come with significant downsides

www.ft.com

we havnt had a good ploughing vrs DD dust up for awhile it all seems dominated by the politics of rt nfu et al

The single comment at the bottom of the page is a good summary.

 

[Levelsman]

Will no-till farming put paid to the plough?

The claimed benefits for minimising soil disturbance come with significant downsides

www.ft.com

we havnt had a good ploughing vrs DD dust up for awhile it all seems dominated by the politics of rt nfu et al

Oh no, I'm still full up from the last one
...aaah, but that was pivot steer vs side arm!

 

[som farmer]

remove glyphosate, and you completely alter the debate.

ploughing has a place, but doesn't help the soil biology.

no/min til, dd will increase, ploughing is an expensive form of tillage, but l think a reduction in ploughing will generally be worthwhile. Just done when really needed.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Ploughing has a place but only a small one , it's handy if you have a very rough field and we still plough the spud ground , but won't be sharing a bed with one if I can help it

 

[MrNoo]

Spoke to my friend who has a Mzuri and he said he’d wished he’d ploughed and combi’d the lot in Autumn. Not seen his crops but then I’m not sure there’s much to see anyway by accounts.
It’s going to be pretty grim for us match ploughing boys and girls then.

 

[Kevtherev]

Will no-till farming put paid to the plough?

The claimed benefits for minimising soil disturbance come with significant downsides

www.ft.com

we havnt had a good ploughing vrs DD dust up for awhile it all seems dominated by the politics of rt nfu et al

They are sowing the roads in France

 

[john432]

Ploughing has a place but only a small one , it's handy if you have a very rough field and we still plough the spud ground , but won't be sharing a bed with one if I can help it

Unless it's stoney ground...for a grass reseed, ploughing takes some beating, especially after a break crop .

 

[Wombat]

As with everything be flexible and don't get too hung up on the details

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Unless it's stoney ground...for a grass reseed, ploughing takes some beating, especially after a break crop .

We all have our own views on this and our farms and soils vary so much , but have ploughed almost everything for 40 years I'm finding the opposite, I only plough now if I have to , but direct drilling does take some figuring out , some do try it who don't seem to know what they are doing ,or don't listen to advice ,get it wrong and never do it again ,my mate has just sold his 3 year old drill for that reason

 

[BuskhillFarm]

Spoke to my friend who has a Mzuri and he said he’d wished he’d ploughed and combi’d the lot in Autumn. Not seen his crops but then I’m not sure there’s much to see anyway by accounts.
It’s going to be pretty grim for us match ploughing boys and girls then.

Yeah a dd match mightnt be as exciting to watch unless it’s the double Ds variety

 

[delilah]

Our new neighbour ploughs everything. Right to the hedge bottom. Anyone on here wants to have a 'sustainability' argument with him, good luck with that, the farm has been biodynamic for decades, the soil to my untrained eye looks to be in perfect health, they were farming in this way before glyphosate was invented and they will be farming like it beyond when it is banned.

None of which is to say they farm ' better' than anyone else, they farm differently, is all.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Our new neighbour ploughs everything. Right to the hedge bottom. Anyone on here wants to have a 'sustainability' argument with him, good luck with that, the farm has been biodynamic for decades, the soil to my untrained eye looks to be in perfect health, they were farming in this way before glyphosate was invented and they will be farming like it beyond when it is banned.

None of which is to say they farm ' better' than anyone else, they farm differently, is all.

What's sustainable about biodynamics? It's based on a one person theology

 

[Henarar]

Will no-till farming put paid to the plough?

The claimed benefits for minimising soil disturbance come with significant downsides

www.ft.com

we havnt had a good ploughing vrs DD dust up for awhile it all seems dominated by the politics of rt nfu et al

No till has worked well here for 20 plus years, 80 years on some of the farm

 

[delilah]

What's sustainable about biodynamics? It's based on a one person theology

It's a label, same as organic, same as regenerative, nothing more, was simply making the point that I challenge anyone to say his system is less sustainable than any other.

 

[Bury the Trash]

but doesn't help the soil biology.

it helps soil chemistry

 

[Bury the Trash]

No till has worked well here for 20 plus years, 80 years on some of the farm

yes that's the true meaning of the word no till /no touched instead of it being used a trend name /strapline on an arable ground

 

[Bury the Trash]

saw a really poor field of what looked like wheat ,right beside the Railway on the way to Bristol the other day , i could it tell even from the teain wizzing past it had been drilled strsight into the stubble ,looked like is wasnt going to make it without humongous amounts of N and a good early spring , ....and it wasnt volunteers because they wouldve looked far stronger,

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What rubbish does a grassland farmer have to burry

 

[Bury the Trash]

What rubbish does a grassland farmer have to burry

not even a drill should be needed then it would be actual no till '
just broad cast seed on and the worms will pull the seed down in under
well tbf even them worms will be tilling. same as anything that digs into the soil.