Will the rain ever stop

serf

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Location
warwickshire
Interesting article on the Hunga Tonga volcano eruption, showing how much water vapour was ejected into the atmosphere:


The killer chart is this one, that shows not only how much water vapour is in the atmosphere compared to normal, but how it has migrated latitudinally from the volcano position just south of the equator. We in the northern hemisphere can count ourselves lucky, the majority went south.
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Judging by the above I'd say there's several years of above average rainfall still to come before things get back to normal.
Not very useful for the Globull warmers tho is it if there is a logical explanation for this sh!t weather 🤔.

Unless they just tax us a bit more with green taxes ,then that might stop the volcanoes erupting ...
 

Sam Partridge

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Arable Farmer
Location
South Devon
Sorry for moaning but I'm fed up of the rain.. We have had one or two days where it's been nice. Land dries up then rain again and it's saturated.
I know farming (arable especially) has to work around the weather but we are literally down to snatching minutes at the moment before it rains again. Sunday and tuesday were really nice days here but we had to wait until almost dark to do anything of value without making "too much" of a mess, we still made a mess. Neighbours were out late last night as it was likely the last "dry" window for a week but I just couldnt make myself go back out after 8pm and try more spraying. Nearly got stuck last time I went out in the dark
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Don’t worry, it will only take a week of no rain & the “drought” threads will start appearing again 🤦‍♂️
With it being so wet for so long any plants in the ground will have a very compromised root system. Smaller plants even more so as their roots will be very shallow.
It won't be a drought but when it does stop it is going to be an issue in a very short space of time.

In wet times you should be planning your irrigation and in dry times you should make sure your drains are in good order. (that bit wasn't aimed at you @Farmer Roy as you know more about wet and dry beyond what we ever see)
 
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Sam Partridge

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Arable Farmer
Location
South Devon
With it being so wet for so long any plants in the ground will have a very compromised root system. Smaller plants even more so as their roots will be very shallow.
It won't be a drought but when it does stop it is going to be an issue in a very short space of time.

In wet times you should be planning your irrigation and in dry times you should make sure your drains are in good order.
This has been my main concern for the last few years, wet autumns and winters, very shallow roots, dries up in the spring and we're on light land. Within 2 weeks crops suddenly are restricted on water :rolleyes:
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
It would be extremely damaging to the environment to try putting any form of Nitrogen on waterlogged crops and fields at the moment, let alone unprotected Urea.
The so-called reasons for not using unprotected Urea after 1st April is a load of bollox anyway!
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
We have had wet years before.
But never has it been as bad as what has happened since about 7th July 2023.
We haven’t actually had more than 3 days without some rain, much of which has been storms
We are now on storm Nelson, the 14th major storm since September.
And are 3” over our annual rainfall here, but all of which has come in the last 6 months.

I cannot believe how wet grass fields are and am really struggling to feed outdoor livestock without causing excessive poaching.
Water logged arable fields will not allow the winter sown crops to get going in the Spring.
Where Nitrogen fertiliser has been applied, some of it has gone backwards!
Land to be Spring drilled is soaking wet on the surface and even the quad struggles to get over it.

It pi55es me off to see other farmers on YouTube managing to get on and whose crops look marvellous compared to mine. Especially when they complain how bad they think theirs look.

And there is no prospect of any decent weather on the horizon.
WTF is going on?
 

Bobby Spray

Member
Livestock Farmer
Up here in the west coast of Scotland - we are used to a lot of rain. However, it has been as bad as winter here as I can remember. It feels like it hasn't stopped raining since June 2023. However the topography means that the fields don't flood as in other areas. never thought I'd be thankful for an upland farm in a LFA!
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Up here in the west coast of Scotland - we are used to a lot of rain. However, it has been as bad as winter here as I can remember. It feels like it hasn't stopped raining since June 2023. However the topography means that the fields don't flood as in other areas. never thought I'd be thankful for an upland farm in a LFA!
Down here, it is just us that we are not used to the sheer volumes of rain we have experienced, but the soils as well.
I have never known such a prolonged time of soils beyond rain capacity. Grassland in particular has been a huge bog since mid October.

Where I was planning on patching bad areas of crop on arable fields, there is little change of it drying out in time to do so, if it stopped raining now. The forecast says “No”. Rain every day for the next fortnight.
This also means abandoning any chance of getting the planned Spring crops drilled, either.


I agree with you that the weather seemed to break in early July 23 and we haven’t seen any prolonged dry weather periods since. The maximum we have seen is 3 complete days on the trot without rain since then.
 

essex man

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Location
colchester
Not very useful for the Globull warmers tho is it if there is a logical explanation for this sh!t weather 🤔.

Unless they just tax us a bit more with green taxes ,then that might stop the volcanoes erupting ...
Yep, that's why it isn't on the news.
Only fictional human causes of climate change are allowed.
It's impossible to control or tax humans to prevent volcanoes.
Only first became aware of tonga potential cause last week.
2023 the wettest recorded here ever(since 1950) by some margin.
2024 continuing at this record pace.
Tonga issue leaks in years 3-7 post eruption, so just getting started!
 

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