Worst Course Ever - PA1

nuffield1060

Member
Location
Edinburgh
Very true.

The first instructor I passed with said "now you've passed your test, you can go out and learn to drive".

It really took the jam out of my doughnut at the time, but I soon understood what she'd meant.

The first time pass rate is 21% (according to google) which means the standard of drivers should actually be quite good, until people get complacent and rusty.

Yes! Doing the car and trailer test almost 5 years to the day after I passed my driving test I realised how much I had forgotten or lost to rust and complacency
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
There is a whole industry now linking risk, health and safety and training. You identify a risk however small, then get it into the h&s protocols then set up training to deal with it.
There is also a tendency to use that small risk as a way of not doing something. This has crept into the public services over a few years.
 

jd24

Member
I think i know the main reason for introducing the fake pa spray courses. Its for legal and insurance purposes.
If you have a certificate of competence it removes all possibilities of using ignorance as an excuse shpuld you ever pollute or damage something...even though i know no more that i did befire i took the course/test i now have a cert thats says i know im breaking the law etc.

Risk assessments and method statements are there for exactly the same reason on construction sites. They tell you how to do the job safely even if your boss then makes you do it the 'quick way'. If you then hurt yourself they will wave the risk assessment at you saying its your fault.

Going back to the spray course and safety in general i totally support people being trained and competent, i just wish i actually got some training for my money.
 
Did hear of a guy once fail his PA1 - It turned out that he had never learned to read letters - Only numbers.

His Boss used to fill the self propelled for him and give him verbal instructions, never made a single mistake which is more than could be said for some of the folk who get passed.
 
Has anyone ever listed all the courses which could be applied to the many different facets of Agriculture and worked out a cost, not only financial but also in terms of time taken (wasted).

Maybe one all encompassing course taken over a few evening classes called "Common Sense" could replace the existing ones.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Has anyone ever listed all the courses which could be applied to the many different facets of Agriculture and worked out a cost, not only financial but also in terms of time taken (wasted).

Maybe one all encompassing course taken over a few evening classes called "Common Sense" could replace the existing ones.

What a damned stupid idea! Where would they get instructors for a course in that?:rolleyes:
 

dowcow

Member
Location
Lancashire
There was a guy there when I did mine that was on his third attempt at PA1. I think the council were paying for him to do it, and he had no interest in doing it and just considered it a day off which he still got paid for. No wonder people have to have various certificates to be allowed on sites, as there are some people out there who are truly witless.
 

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