Wreckers!!

[Oliveau]

By the look of the photos above, the driver didn't have a lot of choice.

 

[Wombat]

Probably assumed it was going at normal tractor speeds rather than a fastrac and tried to get across in front

 

[B'o'B]

By the look of the photos above, the driver didn't have a lot of choice.

How do you work that out? We can't see the other gate post. It could be a 10m wide gateway for all we know!

 

[betweenthelines]

Look at the photo, the post and the end of the fall is a recent addition.

 

[Deerefarmer]

Off facebook, was posted on here when it first happened.


⚖ Two drivers have appeared in court following this serious crash involving a car and a JCB towing 15,000 litres of slurry

A passenger in the Volkswagen Beetle had to be cut from the wreckage and needed hospital treatment following the collision on the A19 at Escrick in December.

The Volkswagen driver was turning right and failed to see a JCB Fastrac towing a slurry tanker which was travelling in the opposite direction.

During a long and complicated rescue, firefighters had to slice the roof off the Beetle so they could rescue the passenger.

Our investigation with help from the DVSA found that the tanker had two defective tyres and all four brakes produced significantly less force than they should.

Both drivers appeared at Harrogate Magistrates’ Court where both pleaded guilty to different offences.

JCB driver David Coning, 53, of Tollerton near York, pleaded guilty to using a trailer in a dangerous condition. He received three penalty points and £574 in fines and costs.

Volkswagen driver Matthew Parker, 21, of Haxby, pleaded guilty to careless driving. He was given six penalty points and £334 fines and costs.

⚠ It’s fortunate nobody was killed in this crash... and it could have been prevented.

🛠 Please remember you are responsible for the condition of your vehicle and anything you tow, so check it regularly and never neglect maintenance.

It's also a reminder to pay attention at all times when driving, regardless of how familiar you are with the road.
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For my benefit,as this is the type of work I /we are in , could someone kindly explain to me how this conclusion was arrived upon?

As I see it a tractor and tanker was doing its job and another driver turned in front of him.

So with 4 good tires and new brakes the slurry rig could have prevented the accident??!! Is that what is implied here?

Suppose it was an 18 wheeler loaded to max legal weight traveling at the speed limit? Which I'm sure is faster than the jcb would have been traveling, what sort of outcome then?
For the record I operate both a slurry tanker at 65k and from time to time jump into an 18 wheel truck (artic as you call them I think) and transport loads at and above legal weights and I know which of the two units has the better braking ability.

It just appears that the tractor operator is being punished for the irresponsibility of the Volkswagen driver in this case?
What am I missing?

 

[Highland Mule]

For my benefit,as this is the type of work I /we are in , could someone kindly explain to me how this conclusion was arrived upon?

As I see it a tractor and tanker was doing its job and another driver turned in front of him.

So with 4 good tires and new brakes the slurry rig could have prevented the accident??!! Is that what is implied here?

Suppose it was an 18 wheeler loaded to max legal weight traveling at the speed limit? Which I'm sure is faster than the jcb would have been traveling, what sort of outcome then?
For the record I operate both a slurry tanker at 65k and from time to time jump into an 18 wheel truck (artic as you call them I think) and transport loads at and above legal weights and I know which of the two units has the better braking ability.

It just appears that the tractor operator is being punished for the irresponsibility of the Volkswagen driver in this case?
What am I missing?

Hes being punished for driving a dangerous rig. The accident is irrelevant to that, apart from it made the police aware of his presence and gave them an opportunity to inspect.

 

[Wombat]

For my benefit,as this is the type of work I /we are in , could someone kindly explain to me how this conclusion was arrived upon?

As I see it a tractor and tanker was doing its job and another driver turned in front of him.

So with 4 good tires and new brakes the slurry rig could have prevented the accident??!! Is that what is implied here?

Suppose it was an 18 wheeler loaded to max legal weight traveling at the speed limit? Which I'm sure is faster than the jcb would have been traveling, what sort of outcome then?
For the record I operate both a slurry tanker at 65k and from time to time jump into an 18 wheel truck (artic as you call them I think) and transport loads at and above legal weights and I know which of the two units has the better braking ability.

It just appears that the tractor operator is being punished for the irresponsibility of the Volkswagen driver in this case?
What am I missing?

Doesn’t matter as both should be legal and fit for use, same as they would breathalyse both parties as first job and if one had been over then regardless if it wasn’t their fault they would be done for it.

If it had been a truck they would have gone through the same process but obviously the outcome might have been worse in the first place.

 

[Deerefarmer]

Ok makes a bit more sense when explained that way.

I can be a bit thick at times

Thanks

 

[oil barron]

Ok makes a bit more sense when explained that way.

I can be a bit thick at times

Thanks

Do they use thick in your part of america? If I say Thick here, they think I’m talking about women that squat.

 

[kiwi pom]

Off facebook, was posted on here when it first happened.


⚖ Two drivers have appeared in court following this serious crash involving a car and a JCB towing 15,000 litres of slurry

A passenger in the Volkswagen Beetle had to be cut from the wreckage and needed hospital treatment following the collision on the A19 at Escrick in December.

The Volkswagen driver was turning right and failed to see a JCB Fastrac towing a slurry tanker which was travelling in the opposite direction.

During a long and complicated rescue, firefighters had to slice the roof off the Beetle so they could rescue the passenger.

Our investigation with help from the DVSA found that the tanker had two defective tyres and all four brakes produced significantly less force than they should.

Both drivers appeared at Harrogate Magistrates’ Court where both pleaded guilty to different offences.

JCB driver David Coning, 53, of Tollerton near York, pleaded guilty to using a trailer in a dangerous condition. He received three penalty points and £574 in fines and costs.

Volkswagen driver Matthew Parker, 21, of Haxby, pleaded guilty to careless driving. He was given six penalty points and £334 fines and costs.

⚠ It’s fortunate nobody was killed in this crash... and it could have been prevented.

🛠 Please remember you are responsible for the condition of your vehicle and anything you tow, so check it regularly and never neglect maintenance.

It's also a reminder to pay attention at all times when driving, regardless of how familiar you are with the road.
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No one seems to have realised that with 15000 litres of slurry, they were overloaded too, or am I missing something?

 

[snipe]

No one seems to have realised that with 15000 litres of slurry, they were overloaded too, or am I missing something?

I was thinking the same. But looking at the tanker tyres it may have been empty

 

[Davey]

Beyond belief someone can fail to see a fastrac, should be made to have a medical and resit their test although that is probably outside of the courts ability

 

[RAF]

Prob on there phone

 

[betweenthelines]

Police would have known.

 

[Deerefarmer]

Do they use thick in your part of america? If I say Thick here, they think I’m talking about women that squat.

Thick skulled.
Dense .

I tend to use it when typing a conversation rather than speaking for obvious reasons

 

[kiwi pom]

Police would have known.

About the weight? I'm not so sure, if I remember correctly, in the the case of the young chap who died towing a grain trailer, that was later found to have dodgy brakes, it was stated that the trailer had been carrying an amount of wheat that would clearly have made it overloaded but there was no mention of any punishment for it, or it contributing to the accident.
When you see the size of trailers, tankers, forage wagons etc on the road in the UK, its obvious that overloading happens all the time, but you rarely hear of anyone being done for it.

 

[roscoe erf]

About the weight? I'm not so sure, if I remember correctly, in the the case of the young chap who died towing a grain trailer, that was later found to have dodgy brakes, it was stated that the trailer had been carrying an amount of wheat that would clearly have made it overloaded but there was no mention of any punishment for it, or it contributing to the accident.
When you see the size of trailers, tankers, forage wagons etc on the road in the UK, its obvious that overloading happens all the time, but you rarely hear of anyone being done for it.

if they were on the phone

 

[Phil P]

@ED.D as I was saying about them not breaking it!

 

[ED.D]

@ED.D as I was saying about them not breaking it!
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Can’t really blame the topper for that?!

 

[Campbell]

Jet engine blast......