Yet another Bomber Poll: If a General Election was called tomorrow, who would YOU vote for?

[Bomber_Harris]

Hello All

Please can you take a moment to vote in this poll

For the purposes of this poll I've included The Independent Group even though I am fully aware that they're not yet a political party as such, but I've included them to gauge if there would be any support for them on this forum

The usual Bomber Poll Ts & Cs apply. This is an anonymous poll so please feel free to vote in total confidence. There is no requirement to explain your decision, that is entirely at your discretion

The poll will close on the evening of 12th April which also happens to be the next 'cliff edge' date for when the UK will supposedly leave the European Union

Thank you for your time

- Bomber

 

[jendan]

Hello All

Please can you take a moment to vote in this poll

For the purposes of this poll I've included The Independent Group even though I am fully aware that they're not yet a political party as such, but I've included them to gauge if there would be any support for them on this forum

The usual Bomber Poll Ts & Cs apply. This is an anonymous poll so please feel free to vote in total confidence. There is no requirement to explain your decision, that is entirely at your discretion

The poll will close on the evening of 12th April which also happens to be the next 'cliff edge' date for when the UK will supposedly leave the European Union

Thank you for your time

- Bomber

Can we have two votes?

 

[Storeman]

I expect we'll be asked to continue to vote until he gets the answer he wants

 

[Bomber_Harris]

Can we have two votes?

it is my understanding that all members of TFF can create polls with as many options as they like

 

[Still Farming]

Liberal demertwats had for a start?

 

[alex04w]

So far 5 votes

DUP 40%
Liberals 40%
Farage 20%

Now that would be an interesting parliament.

 

[Wellytrack]

The rotting carcass of a dead brock.

 

[kfpben]

My heart wants me to write: 'None fit for office' on my ballot paper.

My head thinks a Corbyn government would be such a disaster that the only option is to grudgingly vote Conservative.

I actually quite respect the DUP. They have their principles, they negotiate hard, they believe in the United Kingdom and they don't appear to be the kind of slimey, media pre-occupied career politicians that seem to inhabit our two largest parties.

 

[Danllan]

The DUP are up to six votes now.

 

[milkloss]

Other: none of the cun?s, they’re all fking useless.

 

[Pasty]

I would vote for Nige. The rest are a bunch of cunntz.

 

[czechmate]

I would vote for Nige. The rest are a bunch of cunntz.

And he is an ankle

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Borris

 

[Yacker]

Nigel is off to the political wilderness clutching is EU pension book to his chest, he has already started writing his memoir "mein pint" but is likley only to publish as a e book. His sponsoship deal with Benson and Hedges has been withdrawn and he is now dependant on the new NHS vaping scheme.

 

[Hindsight]

Tories could become the nasty party again
philip collins
The next Conservative leadership election gives members a chance to consummate or end their flirtation with dogma

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The woman who noticed that the Conservatives were seen as the nasty party has now fallen victim to the species she identified. With her last roll of the dice, Theresa May pledged this week to resign once her withdrawal agreement has passed. At her current rate of progress that’s a recipe for remaining as prime minister for another decade. When she does go, the forces she once identified are gathering to replace her.
The mêlée has started. Campaign teams are being assembled and activity grids drawn up. Donors are being tapped, headquarters rented, attack lines polished and signature policies devised. The canvassing of colleagues, until now discreet, will soon break into the open and every media interview will become an audition for the top job.
But before the mathematics of politics comes the philosophy. Even an avowedly non-doctrinal party such as the Conservatives divides into several different worldviews. Indeed, ideology has entered the soul of the modern party, to the chagrin of many members. The Tory party once travelled light, ideologically. Its elixir was its intellectual flexibility: the capacity to be protectionist in one era and liberal in another. Such shifts rarely lasted for long — they were merely pragmatic moves by a party in which belief was subordinate to the pursuit of power.
The temptations of two particular doctrines have made the Tories all but ungovernable. The first is the appeal of sovereignty-based nationalism. There is a breed of Eurosceptic in the Conservative Party that loathes the European Union so much that they are not even prepared to vote to leave unless they can stick their fingers up to it as they go. Their vision of national sovereignty in a world of alliances, treaties and trade and capital flows is a century out of date and their assumption that taking back control from Europe is the answer to the problems Britain faces is simply fatuous. Yet they have got religion and cannot be reasoned with.
The second doctrinal temptation is hang-over Thatcherism. The House of Commons is always full of lags in the sense that people who came to political maturity in one era then serve in another. That makes them strangely ill equipped for relevance in the time of their prominence. The Labour leadership candidates in 2015, Jeremy Corbyn apart, sounded like visitors from the New Labour past. The low-tax, slash-regulation Tories hark even further back, to the last successful Tory political venture of the Thatcher years.
The coming leadership contest will be a test of whether the Conservative Party can avoid either of these two versions of the hard stuff. The really intoxicated among them will pour a cocktail made of both elements. The candidate for the determinedly drunk is Dominic Raab who, incredibly, declared that the best plan for the government was to demand legally binding changes to the withdrawal agreement and, if they are not forthcoming, leave the EU without a deal. He must have been asleep for the fortnight in which it became obvious that neither of these two options was feasible. Mr Raab is the last-ditch candidate who loves Britain so much he thinks we could be Singapore.
Though Mr Raab does an impeccable job of diminishing himself I am loath to join in because he is my preferred candidate to win the leadership. Speaking as someone keen to see a new party emerge in British politics, Mr Raab is, without question, my candidate. He is exactly the sort of cat-that-got-the-cream character who would repel floating voters. Non-Tories will really dislike Mr Raab who will rapidly restore the Tories to the status of the nasty party.
He is the kind of Tory who thinks people eat at food banks because they like the menu. There is a set of Tory MPs ready to walk if his unforgiving politics were allowed to take over. And his seat of Esher & Walton in Surrey is high on the list of possible places that a third party might do well. Let’s field JK Rowling against him and be shot of him.
The main purpose of political parties in a democracy is to be one of the guard-rails. It sounds out of the temper of the times to say so, but the party structure is there to protect democracy from the hot-headed rank-and-file members. Leadership elections should not be plebiscites and that applies especially when Tory activists are selecting a prime minister. Changing the person at the top like this should force a general election but it doesn’t, so the task falls to Tory MPs to select two candidates who are plausible occupants of 10 Downing Street.
That criterion ought to rule out Boris Johnson and may well do so. It is hard to think of anyone, in my political lifetime, who has wasted office more than Mr Johnson. He had such an opportunity. He had public recognition and a degree of affection. He reached parts of the political spectrum unvisited by other Tories. You cannot mint that quality: he really did have something none of the others had. All he had to do was to graft on a sense of gravity and political weight — a task that has proved entirely beyond him. He could and should have cast himself as the heir to liberal conservatism. Instead he has lost himself down the dark alley of Brexit. A disastrous spell as foreign secretary has exposed him as a charlatan who will need to be stopped.
If the Conservative Party manages to retrieve any residual moderation it might possess, there are candidates who would seek to embody that. Despite a worrying penchant for the libertarian Ayn Rand, Sajid Javid will pitch himself there, as will Amber Rudd if her pro-EU stance and thin majority in Hastings are not thought to be insurmountable problems. So, probably, will less prominent candidates such as Liz Truss and Matt Hancock. The most likely candidates, if the Tory party is prepared to compromise with the electorate, are Jeremy Hunt and Michael Gove. Mr Hunt is a born-again Leaver and Mr Gove was born that way. They both lean, on domestic policy, more to the left of their party. If the Tories want to go foraging for more votes further off to the political right, they will gift an election to Labour. It is a false trail. Mr Hunt and Mr Gove know that. The open question is whether the party they hope to lead knows it too. The Tory party has got drunk on belief and it may disdain sober leadership. Brexit could be the end of Tory populism. Alternatively, like Brexit itself, it may just be getting started.

 

[Bomber_Harris]

shout out to the Right Honourable members who voted for the Led by Donkeys & Bomber Coalition

thank you for your support whoever you are although to be perfectly honest even I didn't vote for ourselves. I voted for The Independent Group.

I'm a lifelong Tory supporter, in spite of what the Dwarf thinks. He has an extreme binary view of politics. If anyone disagrees with his view on any subject, in his eyes that person must be a far left commie. He will not be swayed on this so you have to treat him like someone who is a bit simple. I have one or two clients who are like this. About once a month they will email me or phone me with a batsh!t idea for a project that will cost hundreds of thousands and has no chance in hell of being signed off by all the stakeholders involved. Usually I just smile at them and say "yes, that's got potential, lets discuss it over lunch something this week" and I do this safe in the knowledge that they would have forgotten about their batsh!t idea because another batsh!t idea will have been planted into their brain and they only have a limited number of brain cells so the latest batsh!t idea will overwrite the previous one.

anyhow, getting back to who I would vote for if a GE was called tomorrow, I will vote for TIG because out of all that shower of sh!t that is currently sitting in the HoC the one person that I most closely identify with in regard to my political views and philosophy is Anna Soubry

She. Is. Magnificent.

that is all

- Bomber

p.s.
if the TIG do become a fully fledged political party I wouldn't entirely rule out a coalition of The Independent Group and the Led By Donkeys & Bomber Coalition. You never know in politics, especially in the current times, IT MAY HAPPEN!

 

[Bomber_Harris]

Borris

this was Boris on Monday on the front page of the Telegraph

and then a few moments ago this was Boris blinking, baulking and bottling it in a series of Tweets


Boris Johnson‏Verified account @BorisJohnson 19m19 minutes ago
It is very painful to vote for this deal. But I hope we can now work together to remedy its defects, avoid the backstop trap and strive to deliver the Brexit people voted for

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[Bald Rick]

Here is the OMRLP (Loonies) manifesto - you can of course make policy suggestions if you so wish:

A.AIR bags will be fitted to the Stock Exchange immediately, ready for the next crash.

B. BRITAIN will exit Europe and join the Duchy of Cornwall to benefit from tax exemptions.

C. CAPITAL Punishment will be opposed on the grounds that it is unfair to Londoners.

D. DATA will be secured, placed in a brown bag and hidden in the PM’s socks and pants drawer.

E. Education. All University Tuition fees for women would be free as we are strong believers in Female intuition. (Due to gender equality laws we would include males as well)

F. FRIVOLOUS Fraud Office setup to inspect fraud too silly for the Serious Fraud Office.
G. GREYHOUND racing will be banned to prevent the country going to the dogs.

H. HALF the grey squirrels will be painted red to increase the red squirrel population.

I. INNOCENT prisoners will be released in order to reduce prison overcrowding.

J. JOBSEEKERS will be made to stand two abreast in order to halve dole queues.

K. KIDS will be made to sit closer together on smaller desks in to reduce school class sizes.

L. LONDON Marathon free to anyone finishing in sub-2 hours wearing large clown’s shoes.

M. MEGA carwash will be created by punching holes in the roof of the Channel Tunnel.

N. NATIONAL debt will be cleared by putting it all on our credit card.

O. OAPS will qualify for a Summer Ice Lolly Allowance if temperatures exceed 70 degrees.

P. PUDDLES deeper than 3 inches will be marked by a yellow plastic duck.

Q. QUITTERS will be encouraged not to start in the first place to improve their self esteem.

R. REGULATIONS concerning car boot sales will be relaxed to permit selling of all car parts.

S.STAMP duty will be cancelled as stamps are expensive enough without having to pay duty.

T.TERRORISTS will be made to wear Bells and Horns so we know where they are.

U.UNRULY teenagers will be superglued together as if you can’t beat them, join them.

V. VEHICLES will be fitted with bungy ropes in order to save fuel on the return journey.

W. WIND farms will be created nationwide, where breaking wind will be encouraged.

X. X-RAY machines will be manned by a skeleton staff.

Y. YELLOW lines will be painted where you can park instead of where you can’t to save money.

Z. ZEBRA crossings will be made permissible to all animals wishing to cross the road.

 

[Muck Spreader]

shout out to the Right Honourable members who voted for the Led by Donkeys & Bomber Coalition

thank you for your support whoever you are although to be perfectly honest even I didn't vote for ourselves. I voted for The Independent Group.

I'm a lifelong Tory supporter, in spite of what the Dwarf thinks. He has an extreme binary view of politics. If anyone disagrees with his view on any subject, in his eyes that person must be a far left commie. He will not be swayed on this so you have to treat him like someone who is a bit simple. I have one or two clients who are like this. About once a month they will email me or phone me with a batsh!t idea for a project that will cost hundreds of thousands and has no chance in hell of being signed off by all the stakeholders involved. Usually I just smile at them and say "yes, that's got potential, lets discuss it over lunch something this week" and I do this safe in the knowledge that they would have forgotten about their batsh!t idea because another batsh!t idea will have been planted into their brain and they only have a limited number of brain cells so the latest batsh!t idea will overwrite the previous one.

anyhow, getting back to who I would vote for if a GE was called tomorrow, I will vote for TIG because out of all that shower of sh!t that is currently sitting in the HoC the one person that I most closely identify with in regard to my political views and philosophy is Anna Soubry

She. Is. Magnificent.

that is all

- Bomber

p.s.
if the TIG do become a fully fledged political party I wouldn't entirely rule out a coalition of The Independent Group and the Led By Donkeys & Bomber Coalition. You never know in politics, especially in the current times, IT MAY HAPPEN!

Hasn't TIG just announced they are forming a party to fight the Euro elections in necessary?

 

[Bomber_Harris]

Breaking news: The Independent Group have applied to become a political party with Heidi Allen as its interim leader

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...ies-to-form-new-political-party-a4104236.html

this is game-on, the coalition the TIG and the Led By Donkeys & Bomber Coalition could definitely be on the cards now!!

- Bomber