Yorkshire dry stone walling source/ earth retains wall etc

Pond digger

Never Forgotten
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East Yorkshire
I have a garden earth retaining wall to build, and was thinking of using the concrete crib system, faced with dry stone walling. Id appreciate any advice on the nearest source of good quality stone: I’m between York and Hull. Perhaps someone might be able to recommend a waller? Although stone (sandstone) has been used in some of the old village buildings, it’s not of great quality and I don’t think there are any nearby sources of new stone.

I’d also be interested to hear any words of wisdom on earth retaining walls in general. Gabion baskets have been suggested as the cheapest option, but I’m not too keen on the wire look, and what might happen when it finally rots. I’ve also wondered about using concrete sandbags, with layers of compacted gravel and plastic geogrid mesh behind, to provide the muscle. Again, I’d be wanting to face with dry stone walling. Of course reinforced concrete is another option, but I’d prefer a softer approach.

The wall Will be L shaped, approximately 20y total length, and the ground rises quickly in both directions from the 90 degree corner. The ground level behind the retaining wall needs to be brought up by as much as 10ft so I was thinking of terracing the corner. The outer perimeter needs to be high enough to be stock/horse proof (how high would that be?).

Thanks
 

Tomr10

Member
I have a garden earth retaining wall to build, and was thinking of using the concrete crib system, faced with dry stone walling. Id appreciate any advice on the nearest source of good quality stone: I’m between York and Hull. Perhaps someone might be able to recommend a waller? Although stone (sandstone) has been used in some of the old village buildings, it’s not of great quality and I don’t think there are any nearby sources of new stone.

I’d also be interested to hear any words of wisdom on earth retaining walls in general. Gabion baskets have been suggested as the cheapest option, but I’m not too keen on the wire look, and what might happen when it finally rots. I’ve also wondered about using concrete sandbags, with layers of compacted gravel and plastic geogrid mesh behind, to provide the muscle. Again, I’d be wanting to face with dry stone walling. Of course reinforced concrete is another option, but I’d prefer a softer approach.

The wall Will be L shaped, approximately 20y total length, and the ground rises quickly in both directions from the 90 degree corner. The ground level behind the retaining wall needs to be brought up by as much as 10ft so I was thinking of terracing the corner. The outer perimeter needs to be high enough to be stock/horse proof (how high would that be?).

Thanks
A picture would help
 

br jones

Member
Retaining walls work in 1/3rds,for the first 1/3of its height it needs to as thick as a third of its height ,( 10 ft high so first 3 ft 4 " it needs to be 3ft 4 thick ),next third around 2ft thick top third 1ft thick ,i wouldnt vary too much from that as you said you are building the ground up,drainage in behind the wall to ease pressure from water ,
 

Pond digger

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
East Yorkshire
Retaining walls work in 1/3rds,for the first 1/3of its height it needs to as thick as a third of its height ,( 10 ft high so first 3 ft 4 " it needs to be 3ft 4 thick ),next third around 2ft thick top third 1ft thick ,i wouldnt vary too much from that as you said you are building the ground up,drainage in behind the wall to ease pressure from water ,
Good basic info thanks.
 

H200GT

Member
Location
NORTH WALES
depending on the size of the stone a well built stone faced wall might be enough on its own but that's just my thoughts,

This will be cheapest option by far imo, plenty done in wales with nothing but dry stone. One great benefit is it drains well, so you don't get water building up behind the structure.

I would get a good local stone mason to look at the job first to get his view and go from there
 

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