Yorkshire dry stone walling source/ earth retains wall etc

[Pond digger]

I have a garden earth retaining wall to build, and was thinking of using the concrete crib system, faced with dry stone walling. Id appreciate any advice on the nearest source of good quality stone: I’m between York and Hull. Perhaps someone might be able to recommend a waller? Although stone (sandstone) has been used in some of the old village buildings, it’s not of great quality and I don’t think there are any nearby sources of new stone.

I’d also be interested to hear any words of wisdom on earth retaining walls in general. Gabion baskets have been suggested as the cheapest option, but I’m not too keen on the wire look, and what might happen when it finally rots. I’ve also wondered about using concrete sandbags, with layers of compacted gravel and plastic geogrid mesh behind, to provide the muscle. Again, I’d be wanting to face with dry stone walling. Of course reinforced concrete is another option, but I’d prefer a softer approach.

The wall Will be L shaped, approximately 20y total length, and the ground rises quickly in both directions from the 90 degree corner. The ground level behind the retaining wall needs to be brought up by as much as 10ft so I was thinking of terracing the corner. The outer perimeter needs to be high enough to be stock/horse proof (how high would that be?).

Thanks

 

[john1968]

depending on the size of the stone a well built stone faced wall might be enough on its own but that's just my thoughts,

 

[Tomr10]

I have a garden earth retaining wall to build, and was thinking of using the concrete crib system, faced with dry stone walling. Id appreciate any advice on the nearest source of good quality stone: I’m between York and Hull. Perhaps someone might be able to recommend a waller? Although stone (sandstone) has been used in some of the old village buildings, it’s not of great quality and I don’t think there are any nearby sources of new stone.

I’d also be interested to hear any words of wisdom on earth retaining walls in general. Gabion baskets have been suggested as the cheapest option, but I’m not too keen on the wire look, and what might happen when it finally rots. I’ve also wondered about using concrete sandbags, with layers of compacted gravel and plastic geogrid mesh behind, to provide the muscle. Again, I’d be wanting to face with dry stone walling. Of course reinforced concrete is another option, but I’d prefer a softer approach.

The wall Will be L shaped, approximately 20y total length, and the ground rises quickly in both directions from the 90 degree corner. The ground level behind the retaining wall needs to be brought up by as much as 10ft so I was thinking of terracing the corner. The outer perimeter needs to be high enough to be stock/horse proof (how high would that be?).

Thanks

A picture would help

 

[br jones]

Retaining walls work in 1/3rds,for the first 1/3of its height it needs to as thick as a third of its height ,( 10 ft high so first 3 ft 4 " it needs to be 3ft 4 thick ),next third around 2ft thick top third 1ft thick ,i wouldnt vary too much from that as you said you are building the ground up,drainage in behind the wall to ease pressure from water ,

 

[Lincs Lass]

Have Stoneledge still got the quarry at north Cave
https://www.stoneledge.co.uk/contact-us/

 

[Pond digger]

Have Stoneledge still got the quarry at north Cave
https://www.stoneledge.co.uk/contact-us/

I believe its closed, but I’m not sure it was great stuff anyway. Would be the closest though, and probably the source for the nearby stone buildings.

 

[Pond digger]

Retaining walls work in 1/3rds,for the first 1/3of its height it needs to as thick as a third of its height ,( 10 ft high so first 3 ft 4 " it needs to be 3ft 4 thick ),next third around 2ft thick top third 1ft thick ,i wouldnt vary too much from that as you said you are building the ground up,drainage in behind the wall to ease pressure from water ,

Good basic info thanks.

 

[Pond digger]

depending on the size of the stone a well built stone faced wall might be enough on its own but that's just my thoughts,

No reason why not I suppose. I think the biggest consideration will be cost of delivery.

 

[john1968]

a rough guide 1 ton of stone per metre

 

[onesiedale]

a rough guide 1 ton of stone per metre

But that would be for just a 'normal' drystone wall, per m². The retaining part of the construction would easily triple the quantities used.

 

[H200GT]

depending on the size of the stone a well built stone faced wall might be enough on its own but that's just my thoughts,

This will be cheapest option by far imo, plenty done in wales with nothing but dry stone. One great benefit is it drains well, so you don't get water building up behind the structure.

I would get a good local stone mason to look at the job first to get his view and go from there