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Quickest way to stop a cow milking is kill her?It does seem to have been invented for a problem nobody seemed to have
Velactis - *Now suspended*
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dinderleat
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Too many vets pushing these wonder drugs ketexonne, metacame and velactis all in the aid off extra profits for them.
All have their place. Every sick cow or one that experiences pain should have painkiller. I do think the Velactis had a place if used correctly - some people really do struggle to dry off these cows. Kexxtone is great for cows carrying twins.
Clay52
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I agree at times but things like giving pain relief (metacam) to animals the require it is or should be a must for people in charge of animals.
Irish NZ
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*metacam
Some people claim all drugs are just for vet profits and the cow will be just fine sorting themselves out..... some people are sh!t talkers.
Haven't used ketexonne but metacam is a bloody great drug that has its place.
Cows 'n grass
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Kextone is just a rumensin bolus but they're £30+ each. There were plenty of guys feeding Rumensin out in nz when I was there a decade ago.
dinderleat
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We do use pain killers all the time with most treatments (cronixon ).
especially with mastitis cases we find I really helps with cure rates.
What I dislike is the way some vets push these certain types medicines.
I thought you said there was no data to back up metacam for its 5 day pain killer affect?
dinderleat
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Rumensin[emoji768] is an ionophore, which can be classified as an antibiotic, that is produced naturally by the bacteria strain (Strep cinnamonensis) and is typically fed as the sodium salt. Rumensin[emoji768] functions by creating a shift in ion transfer across the cell’s membrane. In order to maintain cell ion equilibrium, the affected bacteria must use a considerable amount of energy to correct the ion imbalance thereby reducing bacteria growth. Gram negative bacteria (i.e. starch fermenting bacteria) are more resistant to the action of Rumensin[emoji768] than the gram positive bacteria (i.e. fiber fermenting bacteria).
How long will this be available?
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Wasn't there a big issue in the US with dust containing that getting into the wildlife etc causing antibiotic resistant super bugs?
The reps push it as lasting 3 days (so longer acting, so better value), but their claims seem unsubstantiated and not on the data sheet. They do have some good data on mastitis (and now fertility) showing a benefit. We presume the effet would be the same with other drugs, but we don't know.
dinderleat
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That's what I mean 1 jab of flunixon or croynixon would be about a third of the price of metacam
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- South Molton
But you need to repeat for 3 days?
I found flunixon not as effective on mastitis as metacam
Clay52
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dinderleat
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Yeah but as bovine said they have know claims to prove it last 3 days
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