Davos
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- East Yorks
Shiiiit
Asbestos or Asbestos Cement Sheets
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Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
It can take over 30 odd years before you get cancer.I cut asbestos sheets with a 9'' angle grinder in the 70's and 80's without a dust mask.Looked like a snowman when I had finished.Maybe I ought to book a World Cruise before it's too late.
Were you employed or self employed at the time ?Shiiiit
Davos
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- East Yorks
Employed by my Father who died in 2010 .
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
You wont be able to claim of him then.
Davos
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- East Yorks
Unfortunately not
He was the sort of bloke that if you wore a dust mask ,or any sort of safety equipment you were considered a poof.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Aye, im like that, fortunately for someone I don't employUnfortunately not
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
I know ours does!
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Makes me smile that to be able to tell if it's dangerous or not, you have to cut a piece off it....expose yourself to the fibres, before they'll tell you if it's likely to kill you...!
in an office he probably got exposed to blue asbestos cladding which is lethal,but a total different thing from asbestos sheets
SilliamWhale
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When you look at the statistics it doesn't seem chrysotile is so bad and circumstancially it looks a bit unlikely but entirely possible it can effect you. If you smoked though that ramps up your chances of trouble as well.
I think its unlikely to get much trouble from a few one off events of chrysotile exposure. The worst think they govt have done is make it difficult and expensive to get rid of though, its made the situation about getting rid of it worse.
I think its unlikely to get much trouble from a few one off events of chrysotile exposure. The worst think they govt have done is make it difficult and expensive to get rid of though, its made the situation about getting rid of it worse.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Its not difficult and its not that expensive.
SilliamWhale
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Really? i had a quote a while back which was ££. The local council won't take it if its large amounts here.
Warp Land Farmer
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- Hazzard County
Grumpy, respectfully your comment is incorrect. The fibres that are released when cutting chrysotile acm cannot be stopped by a simple dust mask, they have to be of a very specific specification and face test fixed to the user...if the user has stubble or a beard then they have little chance of a mask being a suitable fit to be effective. There is also the matter of all the fibres that are captured by the users clothes / hair / skin etc that do disappear when the mask is taken off...there are specific coveralls available to wear and remove / dispose of once the task has been completed. If anyone is really concerned or interested in asbestos containing materials then there are number ours UKAT approved public awareness courses available to attend... They will be an eye opener to some judging by a number of posts on this subject link...or simply go on the HSE website and read the Asbestos Essentials task sheets. Trust this helps rather than enrages.
i wouldn't sweat it as i never bothered with a mask and like davos was covered head to toe in a white dust,if i die i die but i sincerely doubt it will be from cutting up asbestos roof sheets 35 years ago.but it did make me laugh when i seen folks in space suits clip off a little bit of one and place in a hermetically sealed container.now admit the truth what is the most dangerous roof sheets or blue asbestos?
Warp Land Farmer
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- Hazzard County
Blue asbestos is in a much higher risk category than chrysotile which is the most common asbestos fibre in roof sheets, that's why chrysotile removal is an unlicensed, unreportable task when carried out by a suitably trained person following recognised approved procedures and blue removal is a licences, reportable task with control measures significantly higher than those categories below it.
Perhaps the Control of Asbestos regulations 2012 would be interesting reading for your good self?
Now you admit the truth, you don't really know what your talking about and are potentially risking others long term health by belittling your own gung-ho past.
I sincerely hope that you don't contract any of the asbestos related death causing cancers as I have watched a very good pal recently overcome by this so know first hand what a terrible, pain wracked last 6 months of life he had due to being ignorant of the facts of this material.
It makes you laugh to see people taking risk seriously and wearing correct PPE does it?? Shame on you in your ignorance, you have my pity.
Perhaps the Control of Asbestos regulations 2012 would be interesting reading for your good self?
Now you admit the truth, you don't really know what your talking about and are potentially risking others long term health by belittling your own gung-ho past.
I sincerely hope that you don't contract any of the asbestos related death causing cancers as I have watched a very good pal recently overcome by this so know first hand what a terrible, pain wracked last 6 months of life he had due to being ignorant of the facts of this material.
It makes you laugh to see people taking risk seriously and wearing correct PPE does it?? Shame on you in your ignorance, you have my pity.
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Warp Land Farmer
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One of the greatest sufferers of asbestos related illness is office workers and teachers who have spent years pinning memo's, charts, kids pictures etc. to notice boards as many of the boards were blue ACM... If you can imagin that every time they pull a pin out they were exposed to a very localised dose of the acm fibre straight to their face...poor buggers.
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never let a good rant get in the way of facts,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-politicians-grossly-exaggerated-dangers.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-politicians-grossly-exaggerated-dangers.html
Red Fred
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- Hants/Dorset border
I had to get some roof sheets tested to avoid trouble from a tenant who was trying to pull a fast one by claiming our roofs were dangerous. One barn was built in the 1950s, the other in 1976 both using Big6 sheets. I looked online, found a lady in our town who tested for asbestos in her own lab and she did it while I waited. I used a variety of samples from the edges of both roofs and it cost £40 (£20/roof). The whole process took 4 hours from first hearing from our tenant, so it nipped it in the bud. Both roofs used Chrysotile but as the lady and the NFU pointed out, if undisturbed roofs were dangerous, most factories would have to shut down overnight.
Red Fred
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I should add that our tenant was claiming that the Council would shut his business down if the Public Health people noticed the "asbestos roof". This p***ed me off so much, I went to the Council offices myself and asked them about it, the man just looked bemused and dug out a copy of their Asbestos guidelines which once more said that sheets were fine if left in situ, but outlined the safe procedure for replacing sheets. There was no question of having a dangerous barn, but the tenant was trying to avoid paying rent by making out it was "unfit for purpose."
