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- Somerset
Yes if you mean Colin Ottery.
He did say he felt sorry for us
He did mine, lovely chap and thanks for the recommendation.
Sorry to hear about the results though!
- Location
- Warwickshire
Our few (65) scanned at 198% on Thursday
They are mainly Easycare + about 10 Charolais X Mule
41 with twins, a few singles & a few 3s & 4s
They are mainly Easycare + about 10 Charolais X Mule
41 with twins, a few singles & a few 3s & 4s
Yea he has not been far out with ours in the last couple years
- Location
- Somerset
He is a really nice chap and as H says usually spot on
Disappointed with the results but not all Bert 's fault. We were only planning on putting him in with a few ewes to breed a few replacements which he would have managed ok. But we couldn't have a tup from the chap we usually borrow one from so Bert had to go in with all the ewes. As Colin said it's a good opportunity for a bit of a clear out
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
He is a really nice chap and as H says usually spot on
Disappointed with the results but not all Bert 's fault. We were only planning on putting him in with a few ewes to breed a few replacements which he would have managed ok. But we couldn't have a tup from the chap we usually borrow one from so Bert had to go in with all the ewes. As Colin said it's a good opportunity for a bit of a clear out
Any ram should be able to cope with 31 ewes very easily, he certainly wasn't stretched. It certainly sounds like he probably had a fertility/libido/physical issue of some kind. If he recovers from his current issues, I would certainly fertility test him before using him again.
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- Montgomeryshire
Like 90% of the success rate, IME.
Always good to hear good results back of course, but if the frozen semen is good quality (and it wouldn't be frozen/stored otherwise), the ewes and their management are the deciding factor IME.
Like 90% of the success rate, IME.
Always good to hear good results back of course, but if the frozen semen is good quality (and it wouldn't be frozen/stored otherwise), the ewes and their management are the deciding factor IME.
Yes, I'd agree. We think 70-80% first time conception is the base line. Less than 70 there's problems somewhere in the system. More than 80 and that's a good result. On our own ewes the same tup's conception rate was similar, but the scanning % was less.
As I have said before never depend on one tup the chances off something going wrong are too great.
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- Somerset
We won't be using him again. If he gets right he'll be down the road
- Location
- Somerset
That's ok if you've enough ewes to justify more than one tup
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- Montgomeryshire
We won't be using him again. If he gets right he'll be down the road
I'm not going to 'like' that, but yes, the right decision IMO.
We were not intending to but were forced in to it, the idea was to get a few in lamb to Bert then put them in with the tex tup we normally borrow to clear up, but we couldn't have the tex and bert did seem to be working ok or at least marking nearly all of them
this is the trouble when you only have a few sheep we can't really justify one tup et alone two, we had the same years ago with the cows when we only had one bull and had trouble with him
I know what you are saying but you only need an old tup or a cheapo tup bought for £100 or less just as an insurance policy,I've got one going on hire on Monday just to chase up for a neighbour.
ISCO
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Interesting to learn you can vaccinate against campylobactor. We had a nasty outbreak nearly 30 years ago around a third aborted. We have been clear since then however hear of outbreaks locally every year and it is a worryWhilst it might be worth doing some bloods to investigate, if only to rule out anything for which you could do something next year, I've spoken to several early lambing flocks (mostly Dec) that had more empties and a lower %age than normal. Scanners have told the same story. Our own early mob where just the same, for no good reason, which is why I only lambed 64 last week, where I'd normally do around 100.
My earlies on get one chance of the ram, then drop back to lamb in March. Those same ewes took the ram very quickly in October, and with only 3 returns marked after 17 days. Mine are vaccinated against Toxo, all bar the shearlings were vaccinated against Enzo and the yearlings are all vaccinated against Campylobacter, so covered pretty well all bases for infectious causes here. All were treated for known TE deficiencies and kept very calm for several weeks after mating (AI and natural service).
Just one of those years?
Guiggs
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- Leicestershire
I don't think I'd want to be keeping daughters from him as breeding stock if it was my choice, sorry to say but I'd sell them fat and source some decent females and a new ram next year if I were you!
yea we had thought about that but what would be wrong with them in particular ?
We got a Tex ram to go with 7 of the ewes today, he has served one already, the rest are of tomorrow along with some lambs