- Location
- Larne, Northern Ireland
Unfortunately some folk don't realise it's better sitting doin nothing anyway
Man and tractor price??
- Thread starter Shane s
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ns_sheep
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- Location
- Nova Scotia, Canada
I would have hired contractors over here instead of buying all my own kit if they worked for that kind of money! 1 man and 100-140hp tractor charges £45-£60 per hour here. I figure my break even would be equivalent to over £30, considering all factors and paying myself a small wage.
d williams
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Wouldn't say those £30 hr men would have been top of their maths class in school
- Location
- Larne, Northern Ireland
Most we can get here, I'm just glad 90% of ours is construction work
d williams
Member
Even at £30 I would say leave the job there not worth the hassle fuel here now over 50 p lt
icanshootwell
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- Location
- Ross-on-wye
You got to be £28 hr or leave tractor in shed, a modern tractor is costing £2-3 per hour in depreciation alone. Tractor alone should be £12-15 /hr Bloke to drive at least £10 to 12. If i need a plumber how much does he charge per hour, with van mileage on top !!!
- Location
- Northumberlandia
Yeah & his Van is peanuts compared to these Tractors cost.
Andy044
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Ah you have one of them too! They are getting popular.
One local to us was driving a two year old Deere, new NC 2500 tanker and charging £16 per hour for drawing slurry! (farmers diesel)
There are a few local to us in modern machinery charging £20 for man and tractor.
With depreciation at £5 - £10 per clock hour, its not at all feasible but the farmers love it as its cheap labour and it hits the proper contractors hardest as they are the ones losing the work!
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
Proper contractors around here aren't loosing much work because those that are undercutting can't work to a high enough standard and usually take longer. The phrase "all the gear and no idea" springs to mind
Not arguing with you because you're right, but surely a tractor depreciates whether it's being used or not.
michael N123
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There a plenty of these full time tractor drivers who can only spread slurry or do trailer work and are useless when it comes to something a little complicated like plowing drilling ect
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Does age depreciate a tractor much? It's not wearing anything out sitting in shed.
michael N123
Member
Buy a modern tractor dont use it for 2 years then sell it and i bet its lost a fair bit
Second hand values are determined by age in preference to hours, with a sharper drop in value when a new model is brought out.
Better to sit at home doing nothing than risk breaking a part or blowing a tyre on a loss making job IMO. I don't buy into this whole concept of "I'll do it based on marginal cost of fuel/extra labour/few extra hours on the clock"
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
I know plenty who struggle with a trailer or a tanker. I know that everyone has to learn but at the moment there seems to be a big shortage of people who can be taught
- Location
- Larne, Northern Ireland
Young ones won't listen but at same time the older ones won't take the time to teach, im lucky I have a da and granda to teach me
Chae1
Member
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
So if you bought a JD 7810, 6910 used it for a few years then parked it up with 3k hours then took it out shed 15 years later would it have depreciated much?
wellingtonfarmer
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- Location
- Herefordshire
You can hire a 120hp tractor for £11 an hour so just add your hourly rate on to that.
Those older ones are on the flatter part of the depreciation curve. In terms of ownership cost you've still got rising repair bills. Somewhere aroudn the 4000 - 7000 hour mark most machines won't cost as much to own as a new one.
15 years in a shed? You'll also spend £8k replacing every perishable hose & seal before you even think about the tyres, storage and interest on capital...
Boohoo
Member
- Location
- Newtownabbey
Plenty have the attitude that they know it all so don't listen when they are being taught. Machinery getting bigger and the rush to do more in shorter weather windows hasn't helped but I doubt there are many contractors about who wouldn't teach anyone who was keen to learn. Fusions kinda ruined the baling lessons, used to teach the wrapper man to bale instead of him sitting about waiting for bales, having said that Facebook might be more appealing nowadays.