Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

JWL

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Location
Hereford
I hate to say it, it sounds very much like the situation I was in, but you're the one with cold logic and reason and no matter how much you want to impart the facts and realism into the situation you can't because you just know that you'll drive an even bigger reason for her to walk away and never look back.
It sounds so cliched to say that which you will have allready had ............. "She's having one of those mid-life crisis things". In some ways that glib statement could explain it to outsiders looking in, perhaps it could describe the situation but a break like this is far deeper than a passing statement. My ex, bless her, was/is one of those that has to plan out everything and run through all her options in case there's something to upset her original plan so she can implement Plan A, B or C. After a life in farming and dealing with the Mother of all Bitches Mother Nature we take it as it comes and deal with the problems as they arise. Experience has shown us that we can plan as much as we like but something will allways cock it up and all those Plan A's and B's were a complete waste of time and effort. Those planners of life will have allready have had all the arguments with others played out in their heads and the results allready logged before they physically talk to those people. You've half hinted in the fact that she doesn't want to go to counselling, she's allready played that scenario out in her head.
It's harsh, but all that you can do is to give her time with no pressure, hopefully if the love is deep enough and she still has trust in you she will be able to start seeing what she has walked out on.
My ex got caught up with what can only be described as a serial ar*ehole who preyed on her vulnerability and ended up marrying him even though she knew it was a bad idea, he reduced her into a shell of the woman she was and got her into real financial difficulties. At long last she has managed to escape the emotional grip he had put on her and has got out of the relationship and is trying to survive on her own allbeit with a fair amount of support from myself and her parents but at least she's getting her self esteem and confidence back. She knows that the door is allways open to come back, she may do but that is her decision not mine. She has so much guilt on not just walking out on me but from walking away from her children and missing out on supporting them as they have grown from being children into young adults.
All that I can say is to be supporting, not judgemental, and just be there when and if she wants to talk. Life's a bitch and some of us find out how much more than others.
 

Flossie

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancs
Just filled in the Stress Survey and it wasn't easy seeing those familiar questions again, please any of you on this thread who haven't filled it in already do so as if we can get help to some folk in need it will be worth while.

Sorry i havent been on here for a while, been catching up and theres a lot of familier stories, stay strong @troubled and @JWL and take all the help you can, its not easy and those worries never go away but they an be eased and you can get to like yourself despite what you think

Where's the Stress Survey @Old Tip ? :)
 

troubled

Member
Location
Tunbridge Wells
Have made the decision to go to the doctors myself about how I feel, not sure what will happen but hopefully I will at least find a way to get some sleep after it.

Had the kids last night for the first time since the new house. Was fine until I went to bed and started to fall asleep only for one to wake for the toilet then I didnt sleep all night. This morning the youngest was asking if they were going back to mums tonight but they are here again and she started crying and shouting that she didnt want to stay here again :cry::cry::cry:
 

Alicecow

Member
Location
Connacht
Have made the decision to go to the doctors myself about how I feel, not sure what will happen but hopefully I will at least find a way to get some sleep after it.

Had the kids last night for the first time since the new house. Was fine until I went to bed and started to fall asleep only for one to wake for the toilet then I didnt sleep all night. This morning the youngest was asking if they were going back to mums tonight but they are here again and she started crying and shouting that she didnt want to stay here again :cry::cry::cry:

Aw bless you.
Good idea to go to the doctor, even just talking to them about it will help you.
The little ones will be feeling very insecure, the world as they know it has just been ripped apart. Keep teling them that you love them, and mummy loves them, but that for now you are living in different houses for a while. Lots of hugs. Honesty as appropriate for their age and level of understanding, but they don't need to know everything. More hugs. Soft rewards (hugs and time) rather than hard rewards (toys and 'things').
Thinking of you.
 
I had a quick peep at the link for the stress survey and it looked like it could be a good way to go, for those who may presently be troubled by depression/anxiety.

Looking back over seventy two years of only just surviving, I contemplated the many of my fellow travellers who didn't make it this far. Some fell victims to alcohol, some to drugs, some to despair, and yet others to ill health brought on by depression/anxiety.

There were, of course, moments of enlightenment that were learned along the way.

Diet...............There is increasing evidence as to how food and nutrition can affect how we feel emotionally and our mental health.

Exercise........Exercise, they tell us, releases natural chemicals that improve our moods and act as natural pain killers.

Socialising....Keeping a balanced and healthy social life can have a very positive effect on our mental health.

Managing.....How we manage our day-to-day problems can make a real difference to our moods, how we feel, and how we live.

Thoughts.....There are ways that we can look after our selves and have greater control over how we think.

Of course, it is difficult to see when one is in a dark place and troubled by what appear to be insurmountable problems and comments like the above can seem trite and unhelpful.

Stay safe, stay well, and remember that communicating with others will help to generate light into your situation.

Chris :)
 

Juggler

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Great post @Christoph1945 all those points are spot on, especially getting into a pattern of negative thoughts, very easily done if you spend a lot of time alone like many farmers do...inside your own head can be one of the most dangerous places to spend any length of time. Negative thoughts or Catstrophising can become a kind of self fulfilling prophecy where we think bad things will happen, and so they do.
I'm going to work on the diet and exercise thing this year, fed up of feeling terrible all the time.
 
Hi Juggler,

you being a farmer, I'm not sure that you would be in need of exercise but perhaps a more regular social life and close observation of your diet may help. I would suppose that all that field walking, climbing on and off tractors, chasing sheep, etc, etc would be enough exercise for anyone.

You are spot on about the inside of our heads though; some folks get lost in there and it can be a very scary place indeed. I am not a Bible Thumper but churches offer a much needed social arena for some folk in need of a little company and support in times of need. I once spent some time in an Anglican community and each year they celebrated harvest with a hotpot supper and local farmers came in with some of their produce, whilst others, from other industries, brought in whatever they could. I also remember the days when we were drafted in for the back-breaking potato or pea harvest but those days are long gone and now automation has perhaps served to isolate you farmers even more.

I missed last year's open farm day but am looking forward to this year's.
 

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