French elections

Who will win the French election

  • Macron

    Votes: 22 48.9%
  • Le Pen

    Votes: 23 51.1%
  • Fillon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • French Corbyn

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    45

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I Certainly don't want Europe to fall apart, the eu on the other hand is doomed and has been for the last 20 years once they lost sight of what Europe was set up to Do and decided that it was going to be a political union the writing was on the wall
as @Old McDonald has said several times that was the eventual aim from the start but it won't work and will be the undoing of the EU
 
as @Old McDonald has said several times that was the eventual aim from the start but it won't work and will be the undoing of the EU

It is true that I have posted that several times, but people do not want to believe it, even saying that was not the case at the time of the first referendum. All they have to do to find out is read the founding Treaty and some of the subsequent ones.

I think the EU will continue, because there are sufficient people who want it to work.
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
It is true that I have posted that several times, but people do not want to believe it, even saying that was not the case at the time of the first referendum. All they have to do to find out is read the founding Treaty and some of the subsequent ones.

I think the EU will continue, because there are sufficient people who want it to work.
Only trouble is there enough people willing to pay to make it work
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
It is true that I have posted that several times, but people do not want to believe it, even saying that was not the case at the time of the first referendum. All they have to do to find out is read the founding Treaty and some of the subsequent ones.

I think the EU will continue, because there are sufficient people who want it to work.

I think it will continue, but it has to do some serious looking in the mirror and start getting to grips with things like migration or the far right will ultimately fragment it.
 

Honest john

Member
Location
Fenland
It's not easy to change course.

The Countries with the euro, will the voters have the courage to change ?

I don't think we would have had 52% Brexit if we had the Euro.

So We are in Iceland ATM
They defaulted as we know in 2008.
Stuff is 3X the cost of the UK now.

Which is ok for those of working age,
The population is increasing, tourism is increasing savings destroyed. But life goes on.

Going to be an interesting year that's the only certainty.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
It's not easy to change course.

The Countries with the euro, will the voters have the courage to change ?

I don't think we would have had 52% Brexit if we had the Euro.

So We are in Iceland ATM
They defaulted as we know in 2008.
Stuff is 3X the cost of the UK now.

Which is ok for those of working age,
The population is increasing, tourism is increasing savings destroyed. But life goes on.

Going to be an interesting year that's the only certainty.

Sounds interesting holiday or work? I guess the cost of imports it due to the Krona halving in value with other major currencies after the default. Is there a local tax on goods as well?
 

RobFZS

Member
It's not easy to change course.

The Countries with the euro, will the voters have the courage to change ?

I don't think we would have had 52% Brexit if we had the Euro.

So We are in Iceland ATM
They defaulted as we know in 2008.
Stuff is 3X the cost of the UK now.

Which is ok for those of working age,
The population is increasing, tourism is increasing savings destroyed. But life goes on.

Going to be an interesting year that's the only certainty.
define 'stuff'

Iceland , like Norway has massive tarrifs on food to protect their domestic industries, so it's always going to be dearer
 
Can it be an "eventual aim from the start"?

Yes. The various Treaties have numerous examples of time frames by which certain events will occur. Others do not have such a timescale therefore they are an eventual aim. For example Article 42.2 od the Treaty of Lisbon:-

2. The common security and defence policy shall include the progressive framing of a common Union defence policy. This will lead to a common defence, when the European Council, acting unanimously, so decides.
 

Honest john

Member
Location
Fenland
define 'stuff'

Iceland , like Norway has massive tarrifs on food to protect their domestic industries, so it's always going to be dearer

Rob
It's hard to define stuff on a short holiday.

But I note
Norway stuff about 2.5 x what it is in U.K.
Iceland stuff about 3 x what it is in U.K.

Although I am anti the Euro as countries lose the power over their own money.

I can see. There are many advantages to the euro as well.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 120 38.8%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 118 38.2%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 42 13.6%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 18 5.8%

Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published

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Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.

From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024

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Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
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