French elections

[Henarar]

I Certainly don't want Europe to fall apart, the eu on the other hand is doomed and has been for the last 20 years once they lost sight of what Europe was set up to Do and decided that it was going to be a political union the writing was on the wall

as @Old McDonald has said several times that was the eventual aim from the start but it won't work and will be the undoing of the EU

 

[Old McDonald]

as @Old McDonald has said several times that was the eventual aim from the start but it won't work and will be the undoing of the EU

It is true that I have posted that several times, but people do not want to believe it, even saying that was not the case at the time of the first referendum. All they have to do to find out is read the founding Treaty and some of the subsequent ones.

I think the EU will continue, because there are sufficient people who want it to work.

 

[turbo]

It is true that I have posted that several times, but people do not want to believe it, even saying that was not the case at the time of the first referendum. All they have to do to find out is read the founding Treaty and some of the subsequent ones.

I think the EU will continue, because there are sufficient people who want it to work.

Only trouble is there enough people willing to pay to make it work

 

[Muck Spreader]

It is true that I have posted that several times, but people do not want to believe it, even saying that was not the case at the time of the first referendum. All they have to do to find out is read the founding Treaty and some of the subsequent ones.

I think the EU will continue, because there are sufficient people who want it to work.

I think it will continue, but it has to do some serious looking in the mirror and start getting to grips with things like migration or the far right will ultimately fragment it.

 

[turbo]

I think it will continue, but it has to do some serious looking in the mirror and start getting to grips with things like migration or the far right will ultimately fragment it.

I Don't think they are capable of change quickly enough

 

[Honest john]

It's not easy to change course.

The Countries with the euro, will the voters have the courage to change ?

I don't think we would have had 52% Brexit if we had the Euro.

So We are in Iceland ATM
They defaulted as we know in 2008.
Stuff is 3X the cost of the UK now.

Which is ok for those of working age,
The population is increasing, tourism is increasing savings destroyed. But life goes on.

Going to be an interesting year that's the only certainty.

 

[Muck Spreader]

It's not easy to change course.

The Countries with the euro, will the voters have the courage to change ?

I don't think we would have had 52% Brexit if we had the Euro.

So We are in Iceland ATM
They defaulted as we know in 2008.
Stuff is 3X the cost of the UK now.

Which is ok for those of working age,
The population is increasing, tourism is increasing savings destroyed. But life goes on.

Going to be an interesting year that's the only certainty.

Sounds interesting holiday or work? I guess the cost of imports it due to the Krona halving in value with other major currencies after the default. Is there a local tax on goods as well?

 

[RobFZS]

It's not easy to change course.

The Countries with the euro, will the voters have the courage to change ?

I don't think we would have had 52% Brexit if we had the Euro.

So We are in Iceland ATM
They defaulted as we know in 2008.
Stuff is 3X the cost of the UK now.

Which is ok for those of working age,
The population is increasing, tourism is increasing savings destroyed. But life goes on.

Going to be an interesting year that's the only certainty.

define 'stuff'

Iceland , like Norway has massive tarrifs on food to protect their domestic industries, so it's always going to be dearer

 

[czechmate]

as @Old McDonald has said several times that was the eventual aim from the start but it won't work and will be the undoing of the EU

Can it be an "eventual aim from the start"?

 

[Old McDonald]

Only trouble is there enough people willing to pay to make it work

Will the populace have a choice? Those in the UK did not.

I think it will continue, but it has to do some serious looking in the mirror and start getting to grips with things like migration or the far right will ultimately fragment it.

Agree.

 

[Old McDonald]

Can it be an "eventual aim from the start"?

Yes. The various Treaties have numerous examples of time frames by which certain events will occur. Others do not have such a timescale therefore they are an eventual aim. For example Article 42.2 od the Treaty of Lisbon:-

2. The common security and defence policy shall include the progressive framing of a common Union defence policy. This will lead to a common defence, when the European Council, acting unanimously, so decides.

 

[Henarar]

Can it be an "eventual aim from the start"?

yes

 

[Honest john]

define 'stuff'

Iceland , like Norway has massive tarrifs on food to protect their domestic industries, so it's always going to be dearer

Rob
It's hard to define stuff on a short holiday.

But I note
Norway stuff about 2.5 x what it is in U.K.
Iceland stuff about 3 x what it is in U.K.

Although I am anti the Euro as countries lose the power over their own money.

I can see. There are many advantages to the euro as well.

 

[czechmate]

yes

Every day's a school day

 

[caveman]

Hahaha. And there's you playing truant!

 

[dstudent]

So Le Pen has been caught with her hand in the EU till, quel damage!!

 

[jockthethistle]

We are mostly farmers on here and we all have our hand in the till ...bravo le pen

 

[dstudent]

Well I suppose what s good for the goose.....

 

[caveman]

Well I suppose what s good for the goose.....

That is very, very good.
Your best post do far!
Just a pity no swans were involved.

 

[dstudent]

That is very, very good.
Your best post do far!
Just a pity no swans were involved.

We aim to please
And I already know, I m regretting writing that