Tesco stocking Argentinian beef in some Welsh stores!!

Hilly said:

I will see you at the other side of the bus then, may the best farmers survive. Watch you dont get squashed dunc.

Or you could play safe and book the farmsale today.

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Good advice but a year too late?

czechmate said:

Good advice but a year too late?

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No, farm sale at the moment everything will make a small fortune, leave it until 2021 might be better might be paying the scrap man and the knacker man to take everything away ! if i was 100% convinced we are doomed after 2020 id be selling now !!

czechmate said:

Good advice but a year too late?

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It'll make no difference Mark , we'll be kicked out of the club but still receive the same service for the same fee .

czechmate said:

Good advice but a year too late?

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Block of land near me went for 15k an acre the other night, it's insane.

RobFZS said:

Block of land near me went for 15k an acre the other night, it's insane.

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15k an acre for land is nothing , have you seen house prices .. f**kin mental.

RobFZS said:

Block of land near me went for 15k an acre the other night, it's insane.

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I suppose all of beds will become London sprawl so a good long term investment.
A bit further north, land easily sold at 10k 18 months back, now advertised at 7, not getting a serious look

bobk said:

15k an acre for land is nothing , have you seen house prices .. fudgein mental.

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300 quid a month for a single room! you'd think with the amount they'e building at the moment it would start going down

That's in a rough area of Crewe aswell

bobk said:

15k an acre for land is nothing , have you seen house prices .. fudgein mental.

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Everything is dear everyone is busy country is booming.

Hilly said:

I will see you at the other side of the bus then, may the best farmers survive. Watch you dont get squashed dunc.

Or you could play safe and book the farmsale today.

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This Brexit business has brought the worst out in you Hilly. I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying most of the time but I really don't like the way you're saying it.

bobk said:

15k an acre for land is nothing , have you seen house prices .. fudgein mental.

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I wonder if they will crash and burn?
Buying one this week with my son

Hilly said:

Everything is dear everyone is busy country is booming.

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Labour go on about the tories not building enough houses but i've seen more houses being built in the last 3 years than i seen in the last 15 , everything with planning is getting built on now

RobFZS said:

Labour go on about the tories not building enough houses but i've seen more houses being built in the last 3 years than i seen in the last 15 , everything with planning is getting built on now

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See my post above about land prices in beds

Anyway, on topic, just curious, has anyone tried the Argie beef? I can imagine, for no reason at all, that it really might be pretty good?

czechmate said:

I wonder if they will crash and burn?
Buying one this week with my son

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He could have a free house in La Favorie .

Anyone know what method of slaughter the Argentinians use? I once saw a video from one of the south american countries and the method of slaughter was diabolical but can't remember which country it was

bobk said:

He could have a free house in La Favorie .

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Hilly said:

I will see you at the other side of the bus then, may the best farmers survive. Watch you dont get squashed dunc.

Or you could play safe and book the farmsale today.

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Don't think so Alan. I'll just wait until the bank forecloses on the likes of yourself and buy land cheap

RobFZS said:

You think the Irish and the majority of other countries we import meat from won't have a say on us doing a rapid FTA with the likes of Mercosur?

This is where the Hard tory brexit and the one remainers sell falls flat, it'll be neither, we wont get tarrif free cheap shite from Argentina if it's going to harm the likes of imports from Ireland, everything is intertwined, especially if the EU is involved, you kick one and they all moan, hence why there is going to be further issues of a deal with the EU and strings attached towards lowering business rates.

If we want to continue to sell financial services to the likes of the Irish, they're not going to be best happy when we stop importing their meat, so they won't sign up to the deal, it works both ways.

Also, if people do end up buying Argentinian beef, then we've failed at our job to sell our produce, just as you and me have well seen in the dairy threads with the simpletons happy to work along on 25ppl.

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It is entirely possible that the Brexit situation will unite Ireland [or divide it with a hard border] because free movement between N and the Republic is one of the key items the EU want sorted before even starting any trade talks. I cannot see how N Ireland could remain as part of the UK and effectively remain in the EU any more than I can see the same situation arise in Scotland. If it did, Ireland would share a common sea border with England and Wales and Scotland would inevitably demand the same which would necessitate a hard border between an independent Scotland and England.
There is no possible way for Ireland to have UK rules and regulations while having open borders with the EU. Not unless every aspect was near enough held the same as it is now, in which case why leave the EU?

It is quite possible to come to an agreement on trade with the EU but it will never be as advantageous as the deal we had within the EU and it will have to be on their terms, not ours. To get the very best deal we do need a strong leader with the mandate and ability to make decisions and negotiate the best terms possible. Not being harried by dissenters and mischief makers at every turn and decision reached.

It really is a poison chalice, to lead the UK in these negotiations. Very few people will be completely satisfied with the result, because it will by its very nature be less advantageous then the existing position as regards our trade with the EU. Even if Mrs May is given the mandate to do so in the forthcoming election, it will be a tough negotiation where there will have to be some give on our part, and that will pish off a whole lot of people one way or another.

If South American beef undercuts UK beef by 20 to 25% it will severely impact on the competitiveness of UK producers, have no illusion about that at all. The only saving grace is that if we do make a satisfactory agreement with the EU, then we might be subject to the same safeguards and restrictions on imports as we currently are. Plus, as far as Argentina specifically is concerned, most of their beef is domestically consumed and quantities available for export have traditionally fluctuated to such an extent that they cannot be relied upon to fulfil any contracts in the medium term. That wouldn't stop the supermarket buyers from using opportunist purchases to strategically depress the domestic price at key times of course.

czechmate said:

Anyway, on topic, just curious, has anyone tried the Argie beef? I can imagine, for no reason at all, that it really might be pretty good?

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The Mrs, being a Spanish speaker, went on holiday there and still raves on about it. Cheap as chips as well, apparently. She was impressed by the Gauchos as well.

DrWazzock said:

The Mrs, being a Spanish speaker, went on holiday there and still raves on about it. Cheap as chips as well, apparently. She was impressed by the Gauchos as well.

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Have to admit to not knowing what Gauchos is/are?