simonk88
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- Lincolnshire Wolds
All our tractors and trailers have an annual VOSA approved MOT test, braking and lights etc, plus any Ifor Williams trailers etc. Anything that doesn't meet at least 70% braking efficiency is scrapped.
Death after crash involving tractor and car in Somerset
- Thread starter Westside
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But how do you test an 18 year old to make sure he is 70% efficient. I haven't read this story and know none of the facts but it seems something needs to change.
Edit: that sounds callous. I mean I'm not commenting on this story specifically. It's just they are getting more common. In fact I can look at my primary school year photo and cross off 2 due to tractor related deaths on the road.
Edit: that sounds callous. I mean I'm not commenting on this story specifically. It's just they are getting more common. In fact I can look at my primary school year photo and cross off 2 due to tractor related deaths on the road.
holywell farmer
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- holywell, north wales
Towing silage trailer I bet
apparently it is soon coming to court
Of all the 2,437,875 posts on this forum so far, Pasty, that's the very worst I've ever had to read.
76masseyman
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- Location
- Lincolncestershire
Isn't that a...........................handbrake ?
spin cycle
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- Location
- north norfolk
no
.....nothing on back....just young kiddy enjoying the power....i mean we were all young once but i started on a ford 5000....these tractors weigh tonnes and travel at 30mph...be honest they're hgvs arn't theyholywell farmer
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- Location
- holywell, north wales
Take it steady really with big stuff !no
- Location
- 200 miles N,NW of New York
I can see in years to come, that some of the good firms running tractors will have telmatics fitted to monitor the tractor for fuel usage and drivers style of driving, we have them fitted in the wagons at work, not only does it tell you fuel used, but also how much idle time ticking over, along with torque, heavy throttle and performance of the engine, it can tell who is driving it at the time, this is via the digit card, and how safe they are driving, ie harsh braking and hard cornering
also how fast it is going, where any speeding has happened,
the technology is there now, and some new tractors have this fitted now, the manufacturer can monitor the tractor from there HQ,,
there was a local contractor bought a new Claas combine a few years ago off the local dealer, Rickerbys,
on the first couple of days things was not that busy start of season and so forth,he was stopping the empty and looking all round the machine checking things was ok, stopping the machine to check belt tension on all belts etc, he does look after his stuff very well,
never knew till Rickerbys gave him a call, "is everything alright they asked, as we have had a call from Claas saying the machine keeps stopping, is there a problem" no he said and told them all was ok,
makes you wonder if the police catch on to this, they may well be able to contact manufacturer for info prior to the RTA,
this may include how many hours you have worked
also how fast it is going, where any speeding has happened,
the technology is there now, and some new tractors have this fitted now, the manufacturer can monitor the tractor from there HQ,,
there was a local contractor bought a new Claas combine a few years ago off the local dealer, Rickerbys,
on the first couple of days things was not that busy start of season and so forth,he was stopping the empty and looking all round the machine checking things was ok, stopping the machine to check belt tension on all belts etc, he does look after his stuff very well,
never knew till Rickerbys gave him a call, "is everything alright they asked, as we have had a call from Claas saying the machine keeps stopping, is there a problem" no he said and told them all was ok,
makes you wonder if the police catch on to this, they may well be able to contact manufacturer for info prior to the RTA,
this may include how many hours you have worked
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
They've evolved it. It's now a glorified handbrake
Some more detailed info attached....
Heard a story that a man couldn't get his new 'bells & whistles' tractor to start. Phoned up whoever and was told that his monthly payment had not been made so he had to pay up over the phone then they switched his tractor back on
- Location
- Minehead,Somerset
Heads up, got stopped by a DVLA unit yesterday,checked lights,tyres,wheel nuts and that brakes were operating on trailer. Everything ok . However he did say (which I did nt know) was if you have a cut down artic trailer which has ABS then it 100% must be used when on a tractor ie can't just cut it off and ignore it plus you must have a ABS tractor on the front and if not it's illegal.
Pheasant Surprise
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- Woodbridge, Suffolk
Sounds like another work of fiction from encyclopaedia bullshiata.
Any comment @Simon Chiles ?
[ABS actually is a good idea though, but not mandatory unless your travelling above the conventional tractor limit of 40K]
Tarw Coch
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- Bottom of Wats Dyke
It can certainly be done by some trackers, I know a local hire firm can do it if the hirer gets behind on payments.Heard a story that a man couldn't get his new 'bells & whistles' tractor to start. Phoned up whoever and was told that his monthly payment had not been made so he had to pay up over the phone then they switched his tractor back on
Tomtrac
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- Penrith cumbria
Same old story if its fitted it should work
I have run years ago abs trailers on none abs truck but never got stoped and checked but taken them to mot as same
But if you have cut it they willnot like it
If it was designed as a truck trailor you may need to change use to agri
Changed a few trucks to gritters and on with one now and its all changed three new e xtra forms to fill in ( on top of the three sent and photo evidence) it was designed and made as a hgv so go and buy (buy dvla) a new gritter lol they are making it so hard to change of use to things now no longer just stick drawbar or dolly and pull with tractor cos its designed as hgv trailor
Pheasant Surprise
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- Woodbridge, Suffolk
To make it less confusing - let's say it's an agri trailer fitted with ABS. Does towing the trailer with a non-ABS tractor under 40kph make the outfit illegal. I don't think so.
ollie989898
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Can you elaborate for us what your business entails? Is it pure farming or contracting or something else?
- Location
- 200 miles N,NW of New York
your rules are far different to the uk then, and do you really need 70% minimum ?
In the uk a HGV running at 44 tonnes gross, or any HGV for that matter,
only needs 50% minimum to pass an MOT on service brakes
and it is hard to get a HGV to have a braking efficiency above 70%
you must have a big scrap yard
Simon Chiles
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- Location
- Surrey/ Kent Border, UK
As above I should think that anything fitted such as abs should work, I can't imagine that you are allowed to just disconnect it. If it's not a requirement and it has been completely removed would be another matter.
Simon Chiles
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- Surrey/ Kent Border, UK
I'm not an expert on abs systems on tractors so could be wrong but I thought that there's two types of abs systems on Ag trailers, one needs the towing tractor to have abs and the other obviously doesn't.