Loler testing.

nelly55

Member

Location

Yorkshire

• Dec 11, 2017

• #1

NFU just told me I have to have the loader and tractor/loader tested,I think they said it’s law.No one told me about this.Loader only 3 years old.

 

Still Farming

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

South Wales UK

• Dec 11, 2017

• #2

Vulcan firm is it.
Clip board wielding gangs are coming!

 

Courier

Member

Location

M62 - M1 - M18 triangle

• Dec 11, 2017

• #3

Don't think it's law, but they probably won't insure the lifting equipment without it.

Nothing too onerous if you do any maintenance at all.

Do you have employees ?

 

Bobthebuilder

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

northumberland

• Dec 11, 2017

• #4

Not quite sure if it’s actually law but if you have an accident and don’t have a test you’ll be up sh1t creek without a paddle

 

bovrill

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

East Essexshire

• Dec 11, 2017

• #5

As far as I know the law is that it has to be 'checked regularly by a competent person'.
It's down to you how you interpret that.

 

Courier

Member

Location

M62 - M1 - M18 triangle

• Dec 11, 2017

• #6

Most recent tester more bothered about indicators and brake lights than pins and bushes.

Oh and a 3 year old machine will need a serviceable seat belt !

 

Courier

Member

Location

M62 - M1 - M18 triangle

• Dec 11, 2017

• #7

bovrill said:

As far as I know the law is that it has to be 'checked regularly by a competent person'.
It's down to you how you interpret that.

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As a holder of C & G Ag Machinery Technicians Certificate and a N. Dip. Agr. Eng. (Nowadays called a degree) I would suggest that I am competent.

Insurance Co. thinks otherwise -

 

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nick...

Member

Arable Farmer

Location

south norfolk

• Dec 11, 2017

• #8

I know lots of people who never bother with it
Nick...

 

Courier

Member

Location

M62 - M1 - M18 triangle

• Dec 11, 2017

• #9

nick... said:

I know lots of people who never bother with it
Nick...

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So why do they bother insuring their Handlers or Tractor/Loaders ?

Maybe they don't !

 

nick...

Member

Arable Farmer

Location

south norfolk

• Dec 11, 2017

• #10

Im sure they are insured but if loler is not asked for they dont bother.lots of owner operators mainly
Nick...

 

Campbell

Member

Location

Herefordshire

• Dec 11, 2017

• #11

Courier said:

As a holder of C & G Ag Machinery Technicians Certificate and a N. Dip. Agr. Eng. (Nowadays called a degree) I would suggest that I am competent.

Insurance Co. thinks otherwise -

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That seems to be the problem. But if you sign up with one of the recognized testing organisations as an 'independent examiner' you can do it. CFTS in my case. For obvious reasons you can't really do a report your own kit, if that is what you were thinking....

 

llamedos

New Member

• Dec 11, 2017

• #12

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/loler.57160/

 

Nearly

Member

Location

North of York

• Dec 11, 2017

• #13

Vulcan that do the inspections are a bunch of clipboard wielding power jockeys. The advised that our 30 year old kramer had a seat with torn cover but completely missed the cracked boom outer on the loadall.
Not Fit For Purpose.

 

rob1

Member

Location

wiltshire

• Dec 11, 2017

• #14

No loader on a tractor can or ever will pass as they have no SWL figure on them as the manufacturer doesnt know what tractor it will fit on so cant determine its safe load

 

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agrimax

Member

Location

Co Down

• Dec 11, 2017

• #15

It is a legal requirement under the HSE. There's always something about it when I renew the insurance for the old 3CX.Would likely take thousands to bring it up to scratch and I'm the only one to ever use it,so I'll take my chance! NFU say they will insure the thing but if something happens and the HSE were to get involved,the insurers will walk away. Would think the insurance really only covers fire and theft or means you have a certificate if plod asks for it while you're on the road.

 

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Never Forgotten

Honorary Member

• Dec 11, 2017

• #16

Try another insurance company ?

 

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Hesston4860s

Member

Location

Nr Lincoln

• Dec 11, 2017

• #17

My loadall is insured with NFU and they’ve new asked for it to be tested or to see a test certificate.

 

Still Farming

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

South Wales UK

• Dec 11, 2017

• #18

Think commercial boys lifting tests worst again with pressure tests /test weights etc.etc

 

ACEngineering

Member

Location

Oxon

• Dec 11, 2017

• #19

Anyone needing a safe load indicator for an old sanderson? the original parts are no longer available and were silly expensive anyway plus a tool needed to calibrate them.

I have a cheap fix for this problem which pleases the inspectors

 

Pilgrimmick

Member

Location

Argyll

• Dec 11, 2017

• #20

In the marine industry, a ‘competent person’ is a watch-keeping engineer, there are standard reports that need to be filled in every time the equipment has a ‘thorough examination'. The two terms in parenthesis are from the loler regulations, which are freely available on line.