barley beef need some advice

pellow · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
I’ve told him to do that if you read back

sorry I don't know how I lost the train of this thread, at least there is consensus!

davidroberts30 · Feb 11, 2018

How much barley do bull beasts eat from birth to kill at say 15months

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

davidroberts30 said:
How much barley do bull beasts eat from birth to kill at say 15months

About 2 T

sticky · Feb 11, 2018

does anyone know if the original poster went ahead and did the cattle enterprise?

davidroberts30 · Feb 11, 2018

Roughly how heavy would dairy bulls get to at kill, say a mix of fresian,aa, and blue
And current prices
Just trying to crunch some numbers

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

davidroberts30 said:
Roughly how heavy would dairy bulls get to at kill, say a mix of fresian,aa, and blue
And current prices
Just trying to crunch some numbers

Depends how much patience you’ve got

holywell farmer · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
Wow that's a lot. U not worried about pneumonia with that stocking rate?

Risk of fighting if put to many in 1 shed

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

holywell farmer said:
Risk of fighting if put to many in 1 shed

They shouldn’t fight if you fill the pen in one go and then not introduce any more till they’ve all gone

davidroberts30 · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
Depends how much patience you’ve got

Killed at 15 month

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

davidroberts30 said:
Killed at 15 month

Just depends on the beast and how good the finishing ration is, could be anywhere from 500kg-700kg

pine_guy · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
About 2 T

If barley and then protein/sugar beet etc on top?

Or two ton of total ration.

Also when we did BW bull beef they went as soon as they hit min weight as their feed efficiency drops off with age, but barley was pushing £190/ton then so might pay to take on longer now.

We made far more money nipping them, grazing for two summers and selling store last year.

nt farm · Feb 11, 2018

Thanks for the info.

I will be starting to feed twice a day from today. Will go to MVF on monday and get some minerals and mate has said that I can get some soya from his bulk bin

gone up the hill · Feb 11, 2018

nt farm said:
Thanks for the info.

I will be starting to feed twice a day from today. Will go to MVF on monday and get some minerals and mate has said that I can get some soya from his bulk bin

Get some bicarb when you are at MVF as well.

Don't forget to keep a feed label/ copy invoice from each batch of feed/ minerals etc you buy for your farm assurance records.

gone up the hill · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
About 2 T

From birth it will be more than that!

Also bulls will fight even if they have been in the same pen for months together.

Not sure why there is such an intrest in doing barley beef bulls currently??

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

gone up the hill said:
From birth it will be more than that!

Also bulls will fight even if they have been in the same pen for months together.

Not sure why there is such an intrest in doing barley beef bulls currently??

My mate buys dairy cross blue bull calves in at a month old and finished them and he reckons they eat 2.25T so I reckon suckler bred bulls will eat slightly less, obviously some will eat less some will eat more

Live trade for bulls up here has to be seen to be believed

Hummin-Cummins · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
My mate buys dairy cross blue bull calves in at a month old and finished them and he reckons they eat 2.25T so I reckon suckler bred bulls will eat slightly less, obviously some will eat less some will eat more

Live trade for bulls up here has to be seen to be believed

Any idea why trade is flying so high for bulls up with u at the moment?

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

Hummin-Cummins said:
Any idea why trade is flying so high for bulls up with u at the moment?

Good demand and a shortage

czechmate · Feb 11, 2018

nt farm said:
ok. I can do that all right. but I will need to look at feeders to allow me to move to adlib as feed in troughs at the moment.

Ideas. I understand that the hopper needs to be wide enough for loader bucket but now big as group is 25 animals. plus do a take silage away slowly or leave it in place.

If you have a big enough trough you don't need a hooper or anything fancy. Just keep upping their ration until they start leaving some, then just fill the trough. Simple

In most situations, if I dump a load of feed in the troughs it lasts about five days. I wouldn't think it wants to be much longer

Northeastfarmer · Feb 11, 2018

pine_guy said:
If barley and then protein/sugar beet etc on top?

Or two ton of total ration.

Also when we did BW bull beef they went as soon as they hit min weight as their feed efficiency drops off with age, but barley was pushing £190/ton then so might pay to take on longer now.

We made far more money nipping them, grazing for two summers and selling store last year.

Total ration, I’ve never had anything to do with black and whites (nor do I want to) so can’t comment on how long they take to finish

czechmate · Feb 11, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
Total ration, I’ve never had anything to do with black and whites (nor do I want to) so can’t comment on how long they take to finish

My limmi Bulls never get past 9kg, ad lib. For fibre they get hay rather than straw as that is what we have spare. Maybe the reason?

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