Chemical Price Tracker

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
CTL £5.20/l and Cortez £13.99/l. I am told, but not confirmed, that Cortez and Rubric won't be available next season, only BASF's Epic and so supply could be short. Better price than I paid last year, April payment and space in the shed so no reason not to buy.

Wish I could get Ctl at the price I paid this time last year !
 

david

Member
Location
County Down
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sign up to this - you get an update every month of what is going on in the world of EU pesticide regulation.

some of it is acronims and gobbildogook - but you get the gist of what is going on.

Dimethomorph (as in Invader), Tebuconazole (Folicur, Toledo and others), Signum (as in SIgnum, Filan and Tracker), spinosad (as in Tracer) are facing a questionable future to.
 
https://pappaslaw.us13.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=f0aa4c34c5a7efcb2a8087b2e&id=3da728a2cd

sign up to this - you get an update every month of what is going on in the world of EU pesticide regulation.

some of it is acronims and gobbildogook - but you get the gist of what is going on.

Dimethomorph (as in Invader), Tebuconazole (Folicur, Toledo and others), Signum (as in SIgnum, Filan and Tracker), spinosad (as in Tracer) are facing a questionable future to.

Bloody hell.
 
All part of the great European plan for organic farming

I have to say, I have just had some friends over who are extremely bright chemists. When they looked at the chemical structure of a lot of the actives we used they were absolutely astounded that these are approved for use on a field scale. In quite a number of cases they said they'd not be allowed to use, even a few milligrams in the lab because of their properties. Even if they could, they said they wouldn't use them even in lab conditions with full PPE on. It's given me a bit to think about. If you look at the structure of chlorpyrifos against the structure of VX nerve agent, they are really quite similar.
 

Zan

Member
I have to say, I have just had some friends over who are extremely bright chemists. When they looked at the chemical structure of a lot of the actives we used they were absolutely astounded that these are approved for use on a field scale. In quite a number of cases they said they'd not be allowed to use, even a few milligrams in the lab because of their properties. Even if they could, they said they wouldn't use them even in lab conditions with full PPE on. It's given me a bit to think about. If you look at the structure of chlorpyrifos against the structure of VX nerve agent, they are really quite similar.

Comments like that help us keep much needed chemicals that’s for sure......‍♂️
The greens love sh!t like that!
 

david

Member
Location
County Down
CTL - is a bit unfair that the R&D manufacturer (Syngenta) has to produce all the data required to support it during re-registration (at Syngenta's expense) yet all the generic manufacturers can use Syngenta's data package for their generic CTL products, with no expense incurred to them to produce the data package for registration.

you can sort of understand why an R&D manufacturer would rather sink their money into a 'new' active rather than some active that is generic and shagged on sales price/margin return.

Many be the generic manufacturers should be required to pay a 'royality' to R&D manufacturers so that older, effective active ingredients are retained ?

Once CTL is lost, what are folks going to use as a multi-site on cereal crops to protect other chemistry (triazoles & SDHI) ? Folpet or mancozeb ?
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
CTL - is a bit unfair that the R&D manufacturer (Syngenta) has to produce all the data required to support it during re-registration (at Syngenta's expense) yet all the generic manufacturers can use Syngenta's data package for their generic CTL products, with no expense incurred to them to produce the data package for registration.

you can sort of understand why an R&D manufacturer would rather sink their money into a 'new' active rather than some active that is generic and shagged on sales price/margin return.

Many be the generic manufacturers should be required to pay a 'royality' to R&D manufacturers so that older, effective active ingredients are retained ?

Once CTL is lost, what are folks going to use as a multi-site on cereal crops to protect other chemistry (triazoles & SDHI) ? Folpet or mancozeb ?
Not sure what's going to be left, most of the triazoles and mancozeb are on the list of "candidate for substitution" so there days are numbered aswell.

Organic ag here we come.
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
CTL - is a bit unfair that the R&D manufacturer (Syngenta) has to produce all the data required to support it during re-registration (at Syngenta's expense) yet all the generic manufacturers can use Syngenta's data package for their generic CTL products, with no expense incurred to them to produce the data package for registration.

you can sort of understand why an R&D manufacturer would rather sink their money into a 'new' active rather than some active that is generic and shagged on sales price/margin return.

Many be the generic manufacturers should be required to pay a 'royality' to R&D manufacturers so that older, effective active ingredients are retained ?

Once CTL is lost, what are folks going to use as a multi-site on cereal crops to protect other chemistry (triazoles & SDHI) ? Folpet or mancozeb ?

Hate to upset you but mancozeb also under the spotlight :(
If you farm wheat in the west or where septoria pressure is high loss of CTL will be a massive blow, never mind the fact there’s nothing else of any use for Ramularia on Barley. On this farm loss of CTL is only one step behind loss of glyphosate.
 

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