Pebd99
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I’m sure a brake line could be made up to tee into the handler brake lines. Not a outfit I would want to reverse tho.
Lime spreading
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I’m sure a brake line could be made up to tee into the handler brake lines. Not a outfit I would want to reverse tho.
massey765
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i think the law here is 2 empty trailers,weather the dolly is classed as a third would be open to debate
brakes would be a problem......braking the dolly and not the loader would be a jacknife problem
Cab-over Pete
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Cab-over Pete
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She will be 2.99m wide, all measured up with bespoke wheels to still legally tow a trailer.
That’s the whole reason for going for the Xerion. It’s a tractor, not an agricultural machine so is legal towing. It will be about 300mm higher than my current Multidrive machine, but being nearly a foot wider and without the airbag suspension I think it will be just as stable if not better. Airbag suspension is Lovely most of the time but on the slightest side bank it’s lethal.
I only need to extend the chassis by about 400mm and there are lots of places to brace too. Being a rigid box chassis rather than flexible C section makes that easier for a bumpkin in a draughty shed to get round.
I actually won’t extend the existing chassis as such because I don’t want to weld or drill it at all. It’s difficult to explain but I’ve got several ideas on how to mount the body and will decide once it’s all stripped back.
massey765
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what tonage will you get in the hopper ?
Cab-over Pete
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It will hold 10 tonnes as the body is, but I never put that much on the Multidrive because it can’t cope with it. It’s a great machine and I should think absolutely perfect with a 5-6tonne sprayer on the back, but it’s not capable of what the salesman said, nowhere near.
The Xerion would cope with maybe 2-3 tonnes more, but I want a machine that’s well on top of the job, not brought to its knees.
The Big A is perfect in regard to power/weight and is very reliable, so that’s what I would like to get back to if I can.
The Xerion would cope with maybe 2-3 tonnes more, but I want a machine that’s well on top of the job, not brought to its knees.
The Big A is perfect in regard to power/weight and is very reliable, so that’s what I would like to get back to if I can.
massey765
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did you go to the lime demonstration in the ninetys near birmingham somewhere ...i was pulling a yellow landdrive spreader on ridge and furrow land and could not believe the speed the big a and other self propelled mmachines were travelling at compared to tractor and spreader
ollie989898
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What was the thinking that pushed you toward a Xerion Pete as opposed to the other self propelled machines? More of them about or maybe saw one for good money?
Lime spreader would surely be less top heavy and safer than the old saddletrac with tanks full of slop perched on top?
Imagine 14,000 litres of liquid in this:
Lime spreader would surely be less top heavy and safer than the old saddletrac with tanks full of slop perched on top?
Imagine 14,000 litres of liquid in this:
How much
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Don't think it would do the transmission the world of good either being towed like that the axle would be turning the transmission that would not be ideal.
Cab-over Pete
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We did go to that, yes. It was near RAF Cosford, far side of Birmingham. Would have been late 1991 or early 1992.
It was a Terra Gator you saw there. Story goes they were stopped by Warwickshire Police and told once the demo was over to get it home and never drive it in the county again. A few years later Dad was stopped on the Big A, it happened to be the same traffic bod. He said there was no problem once he realised it wasn’t the same machine!!
They year before, the national demo was up in Yorkshire. That’s where the picture above of Dads 1056xl was taken. A local haulier took it up there the day before. It was a horrendous wet day and all his lights and windscreen wipers packed up but he still pushed on and got it there.
The demo day was the same, horizontal rain all day. Many folks agreed it was the best trailed set up on the field.
Cab-over Pete
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A few things made my mind up but mostly the fact that the Xerion is classed as a tractor, not an agricultural machine. So it’s legal to tow my low loader trailer with Loadall on, which is not the case for an ag machine. It’s really the only choice and I wish I had bought one four years ago but decided then it was too big.
I could have bought a Tatra truck, which is a fantastic piece of kit and also classed as a tractor too, but some of my customers didn’t like the thought of the smaller wheels and no crab steer.
Shovelhands
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Out of pure curiosity, why didn’t the police like the terragator ?
Cab-over Pete
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Because, 27 years ago, it was monstrous! A huge thing on the road and, most likely, he was doing about 35 mph! They could fair shift.
I remember the driver had been bought a brand new bright blue uniform for the event, which he was very proud of. He set off along a grass field at some daft speed, which looked impressive I suppose, but it was a bit undulating and his front wheel bounced clear off the ground! He stopped to get his bearings and set off again at a bit more leisurely pace. The lime was extremely dry and the dust went for miles.
I’ve an idea it was something to do with the early days of SOYL and had driven up from Hampshire.
We didn’t take Dads kit to that one and I think it was the last ever National Lime Spreading Demonstration.
I remember the driver had been bought a brand new bright blue uniform for the event, which he was very proud of. He set off along a grass field at some daft speed, which looked impressive I suppose, but it was a bit undulating and his front wheel bounced clear off the ground! He stopped to get his bearings and set off again at a bit more leisurely pace. The lime was extremely dry and the dust went for miles.
I’ve an idea it was something to do with the early days of SOYL and had driven up from Hampshire.
We didn’t take Dads kit to that one and I think it was the last ever National Lime Spreading Demonstration.
Shovelhands
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Yes, I suppose it was a bit of a rarity back the , and the Terragators are a bit bigger to look at. Not illegal though, apart from the speed of course.
Mind you, a Big A 2800 will leave a Terragator standing
Cab-over Pete
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Oh yes.
On my old Big A I have the legend
“See you later, Terra Gator!”
On my old Big A I have the legend
“See you later, Terra Gator!”
Shovelhands
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Terragators had overdrive blocked off in the Aux transmission iirc
Cab-over Pete
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I don’t know, you could be right. Never had anything to do with them except for several folks telling me over the years to stick with BigA because the TG is the most expensive, unreliable thing they ever bought!
holywell farmer
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Herd of grassland and tillage events but never lime day !
Shovelhands
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