M-J-G
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I was feeling the pain and they were nothing to do with me.Oucccchhh !!!
How do I breed my own wool shedders?
- Thread starter Guiggs
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- Devon
You don't want to be selling store if you have shedders, unless they're sired by a terminal ram in which case they can look corking - tight skinned.
M-J-G
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It looks like that's the case.
Unfortunately these were supposedly fat lambs as opposed to being sold as stores.
- Location
- Devon
Sorry, I actually meant to say you don't want to be selling in a market with shedders. Store or lw finished.
- Location
- Devon
Same as you don't want to be selling Romney types lw down here, though I understand other parts of the country are less prejudiced.
pgk
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- Location
- south warwickshire
Sell half bred texel woolshedders live and near top of market, pure woolshedders always deadweight as grading reveals most buyers cant see past a fleece.
M-J-G
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That's always puzzled me, why so so many seem swayed by cosmetics.
Most lamb buyers I know could almost grade a lamb as it runs past them, and buy according to how that will kill regardless of wool, colour or breed.
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- Devon
Any excuse to get something cheap I guess.
Not yet but we have a handful of people wanting rams so an export could be imminent
this exactly,any reason to take the pee
M-J-G
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It's rarely that way up here, buyers generally buy good lambs regardless of cosmetics.
My friend puts Hampshire rams onto some Zwartbles ewes, so the resultant lambs are the anti-christ to what the "Trendy Wendys" are aiming for, being brown with wool on top of their heads, yet they are keeping up with Texel lambs of a similar weight.
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CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
Sounds like poor lambs and bad choice of sale venue to be fair.
CharcoalWally
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- Location
- West of Scotland
I know a guy who changed from farming conventional commercial owes to Easycares some years ago due to ill health reasons. ( He was looking for lower labour sheep for management ease.)
In conversation with him some time back, he noted that he was roughly £10-20 back per lamb since switching to the Easycare lambs ,compared to his previous Texels out of conventional ewes. However, he didn't put that down to any of the reasons offered up on this forum. He put it down to the fact that the conformation of his lambs had fallen off a cliff since moving to the Easycare, and therefore their saleability.
In conversation with him some time back, he noted that he was roughly £10-20 back per lamb since switching to the Easycare lambs ,compared to his previous Texels out of conventional ewes. However, he didn't put that down to any of the reasons offered up on this forum. He put it down to the fact that the conformation of his lambs had fallen off a cliff since moving to the Easycare, and therefore their saleability.
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
That’s interesting, we run about 1000 easy cares on one farm, alongside 1000 mules. Everything goes dead weight and you wouldn’t be able to pick out lambs from either group on conformation, weight or fat class.
CharcoalWally
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- Location
- West of Scotland
Mmm. Well, I have seen the lambs I discussed, and you would certainly pick them out on conformation.
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
Maybe he has crap ewes? Just like any breed there is maaaive variation.
Getting R and U grades from pure shedders, crosses to a terminal R, U and E
Getting R and U grades from pure shedders, crosses to a terminal R, U and E
Maybe the easycare have a slightly higher survival rate then the terminal crosses. Therefore slightly more lambs to sell and the same money in the end.
i'd be looking more at the difference in what the ewe has cost me to keep and lamb for a year
CharcoalWally
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- Location
- West of Scotland
And maybe he doesn't? Maybe he just has a standard "easy care " ewe? Who knows, anyway, looking at his ewe hoggs last year, there seemed to be a sudden infusion of Texel blood in them. The Texel X hoggs hadn't shed particularly well .
M-J-G
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Is there a good place to go if you have bad lambs.
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