Body Swap Trailers

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

Keep coming back to these as a viable unit for us, as they tick so many boxes.
Jack the air suspension up. Put legs in body. Lower chassis and drive out.

But I’m struggling to find anyone that makes them.
Stronga do but their bodies are too wide for the UK.
Annaburger but not sure who sells in the UK.

Are there any other makes?

Matt L · Aug 18, 2019

Stewart will make demount chassis for you. They will make a demount buck for it and if you wanted a tanker hispec do a demount. What is it you are after?

Blue. · Aug 18, 2019

Andrew said:
Keep coming back to these as a viable unit for us, as they tick so many boxes.
Jack the air suspension up. Put legs in body. Lower chassis and drive out.

But I’m struggling to find anyone that makes them.
Stronga do but their bodies are too wide for the UK.
Annaburger but not sure who sells in the UK.

Are there any other makes?

Hi spec,make them for their ejector trailers.

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Gerbert · Aug 18, 2019

Kaweco used to mount their "Radium" silage trailers on twistlocks onto the chassis. They used to be made by Staja but I am not so sure what is what at the moment.

Chae1 · Aug 18, 2019

@Derky runs them iirc

Steevo · Aug 18, 2019

Chae1 said:
@Derky runs them iirc

I thought he ran hooklifts?

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

topless_matt said:
Stewart will make demount chassis for you. They will make a demount buck for it and if you wanted a tanker hispec do a demount. What is it you are after?

After a trailer for grain July - September, muck the rest of the year. Don't really want to use a new trailer with rollover sheet etc for muck as it will just get destroyed.

This is similar to what I'm imagining. Hooklifts are just too heavy.

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Steevo · Aug 18, 2019

Is there much saving to be made?

I'd just run a separate trailer for each if it were me.

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

Steevo said:
Is there much saving to be made?

I'd just run a separate trailer for each if it were me.

No idea. But 2 high spec trailers, 80kph, air suspension, abs, floatation tyres etc won't be cheap.

Matt L · Aug 18, 2019

Just take the sheet and frame off for muck carting.

Steevo · Aug 18, 2019

Andrew said:
No idea. But 2 high spec trailers, 80kph, air suspension, abs, floatation tyres etc won't be cheap.

True....but I can't see a specialist system being too cheap either.

The other option.....can you hire the grain trailer in?

Or.....the alternative I guess if cashflow was an issue - buy the grain trailer, do a harvest then sell it on again. Probably better value than hiring.....but perhaps not as cheap as buying and keeping as you've then got a price increase the following year.

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

Steevo said:
True....but I can't see a specialist system being too cheap either.

The other option.....can you hire the grain trailer in?

Or.....the alternative I guess if cashflow was an issue - buy the grain trailer, do a harvest then sell it on again. Probably better value than hiring.....but perhaps not as cheap as buying and keeping as you've then got a price increase the following year.

Not much ‘extra’ though if you have Ir suspension etc that can do the lifting for swapping. Also once you have the chassis you can have other bodies, similar to the hooklift concept but without the weight.

Can hire a trailer in but that’s £2500 per year, would much rather put that towards a trailer that’ last 20-30 years easily.

Deutz631 · Aug 18, 2019

https://www.dezeure.be/en/products/detachable-system/

https://www.record-trailers.com/en/trailer/oogstvervoer/afzetbare-wagens

These do demount trailers. But no idea who imports them in the UK. If they are imported at all.

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

topless_matt said:
Just take the sheet and frame off for muck carting.

The way our yards are set up we have a load a week of pure cattle muck, no straw. Sometimes it sits in the trailer for a week waiting for a frost. It would rot in no time. I’d have to spec a stainless body which would be expensive and heavy.

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

Deutz631 said:
https://www.dezeure.be/en/products/detachable-system/

https://www.record-trailers.com/en/trailer/oogstvervoer/afzetbare-wagens

These do demount trailers. But no idea who imports them in the UK. If they are imported at all.

Didn’t know Dezeure made them. I think our local dealer sells them as well, will have a look! Cheers!

Matt L · Aug 18, 2019

Andrew said:
The way our yards are set up we have a load a week of pure cattle muck, no straw. Sometimes it sits in the trailer for a week waiting for a frost. It would rot in no time. I’d have to spec a stainless body which would be expensive and heavy.

Or spec it with hardox which is a good compromise. Not very expensive upgrade either.

Blue. · Aug 18, 2019

Andrew said:
After a trailer for grain July - September, muck the rest of the year. Don't really want to use a new trailer with rollover sheet etc for muck as it will just get destroyed.

This is similar to what I'm imagining. Hooklifts are just too heavy.

ANNABURGER Nutzfahrzeug GmbH - MultiLandPlus changeover system

Annaburger Nutzfahrzeug GmbH

www.annaburger.de

I’d be wanting an ejector trailer for the muck,far safer in the field.

Joskin also made them.

Cargo modular system - Concept - JOSKIN

Depending on the used implement, the drive shafts are easily installed to operate the tipping pump of your Trans-CARGO or the shredding beaters of your Silo-CARGO.

www.joskin.com

Andrew · Aug 18, 2019

eulb said:
I’d be wanting an ejector trailer for the muck,far safer in the field.

Joskin also made them.

Cargo modular system - Concept - JOSKIN

Depending on the used implement, the drive shafts are easily installed to operate the tipping pump of your Trans-CARGO or the shredding beaters of your Silo-CARGO.

www.joskin.com

Yeah have thought about it but adds cost unnecessarily. The current Gull trailers we have are very stable.

Not sure I’ll be having anything Joskin after the issues that have been on here, thanks though.

Steevo · Aug 18, 2019

Andrew said:
Not much ‘extra’ though if you have Ir suspension etc that can do the lifting for swapping. Also once you have the chassis you can have other bodies, similar to the hooklift concept but without the weight.

The extra is in the extras needed for the chassis to demount etc. I'd be surprised if one chassis and two bodies was any cheaper than two purpose built trailers.

A further thought.....do both trailers need to be the same size? Would it be handy to have a larger grain trailer, and a smaller muck trailer?

Horses for courses.

Horn&corn · Aug 18, 2019

Red tractor rules state we can’t use same trailer for muck and to take grain to central store (or any other journey that requires a passport). I’m therefore thinking body swap of some sort but I’m just concerned about the extra weight added by the extra steel.

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