- Location
- Darlington
Well you can get a doctor's meeting on the internet now why not agronomy?
Brisel internet agronomy devices could be the future.
Flea Beetle 2019
- Thread starter cotswold farmer 1977
- Start date
Brisel internet agronomy devices could be the future.
I agree that information from devices and prediction algorithms make well be the way forward but I fail to see how boots on the ground are obsolete just yet. Pest issues are highly localised - WOBM is a prime example. Bad information driving bad decisions can be very expensive indeed. If I were a greenie with reasonable IT skills and a malicious agenda, I'd be trying to hack the software for these tools!
- Location
- Spilsby Lincolnshire
Have you checked and treated for slugs,
- Location
- Spilsby Lincolnshire
Im bound to say this but boots in fields is the only way todate, I bought a drone and the programs to use it within agriculture, (what a fad!! at the moment) it takes good holiday photo though, 30 years ago I was told computers would take over the job of walking fields by a company based in Lincs, using logged in info, it did not work!!!!
- Location
- Darlington
I was being mildly facetious, and rely heavily on boots on the ground both my agronomists and mine. I do also have a hell of a lot of time for the opinions of a lot of posters on here too.
Have you seen many yet?
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Just to he nosey, what would be your plan after replacing the one field with WB, give osr another go there next year?
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
We have plenty
. Treated once 10 days ago but not gonna spend any more.
I would be surprised if @robbie had slugs on his beach
We have plenty
What are you doing differently to me? Very few here, direct drilled into baled spring barley stubble but I did double roll it so the CSFB would have less places to hide (successfully). Don't you plough and combi drill yours? I'd have thought that would be pretty slug unfriendly.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Never put a single pellet down, they'd be cut to shreds before they could get to the first plant.
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
I thought the same. Ploughed and drilled. They were easy to find in the few damp days at emergence - before we had last weeks nice weather. Still a few pellets left over from that so hopefully they will find them.
A miscommunication
- dad thought he would roll it all the day after I drilled it, when I enquired why there was no roller about with rain on the way, he suddenly found himself with 60 acres to roll in the afternoon. He made sure he got over it all, but "rolled" might be a loose use of the word . So it could of maybe gone down a little harder.I've got stubble turnips in next door fields drilled the same time and awfully into cultivated ground with copious amounts of spring barley straw and stubble.
Absolutely untroubled by either slugs or FB ?
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Probably. Osr is only used as a break on land that's a ball ache to put beet on,eg too stoney,no where to tip, awkward shaped.
It'll go wb and them I'll see what's what next year. I'm not going to buy new seed if I do grow next year so itll either be fss from another field, over yeared seed from this harvest or bugger it and it'll stay as cereals and I'll say sod the rape.
- Location
- Spilsby Lincolnshire
In certain regions.
I’ve seen sensor and monitor kit at Fera under development that would alert of such pests before the agronomist even got to the field
10 years from now the few agronomists that are left will be desk based if they still exist at all
The whole neonic ban really bugs me, Gove chose to put the views of a very vocal bee lobby before the unbiased scientific view. I might be looking at this issue to simplistically but there should only be 2 options. Either neonics ARE harmful to bees, in which case yes they should be banned but they should be banned worldwide or at least nothing should be imported that has used any form of neonic treatment. Or the Neonics AREN'T harmful to bees in which case they should be reinstated irrespective of any single issue pressure groups.
However I think we should accept that every action we take has consequences both for the positive and potentially for the negative. Has there been any positive effect on wild bees from the neonic ban? I doubt that will have been looked at yet. There is obviously a demand for oils such as rapeseed, if it were to become impossible to grow OSR on a global scale then from what source would the demand be met? I see little merit in following questionable science to help bees if it is to the detriment to rainforests for example. Does anyone know how many EU countries have applied for a derogation to continue to use neonics?
However I think we should accept that every action we take has consequences both for the positive and potentially for the negative. Has there been any positive effect on wild bees from the neonic ban? I doubt that will have been looked at yet. There is obviously a demand for oils such as rapeseed, if it were to become impossible to grow OSR on a global scale then from what source would the demand be met? I see little merit in following questionable science to help bees if it is to the detriment to rainforests for example. Does anyone know how many EU countries have applied for a derogation to continue to use neonics?
- Location
- S E Glos
According to one or two manufacturers at the time of the ban, neonic seed treatments were starting to be less effective anyway. Yes they were safer to the environment than sprays but still prone to resistance development and it's likely this would be an issue by now if the ban hadn't happened. So we'd likely be in the same boat now.
- Location
- Spilsby Lincolnshire
I totally agree with that comment, I have been saying for a while , Did they Work?? Did I dream this but there was an area given a derogation to use neonics the year after the official ban and the results were not good?? Help!!
- Location
- Spilsby Lincolnshire
There is at present no alternative to" Feet in Fields" , I do agree things will change, but monitoring systems still need people who understand the desired end result to set standards.