I’m shocked. If you rely on new kit to feed cattle you would expect back up if the worst happens, it’s not as if you’d expect free service or a call out for a chat.
John Deere reducing dealerships
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tweedale terrier
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I’d see a problem if it were the middle of harvest. The reality is only the basics are being carried out most farmers have some sort of back up or a neighbour who would help them if they were stuck for a day or two. Also worth remembering thee will be very little or no parts available to order as the manufacturers are closed.
solo
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My dealer normally has a back up tractor available to loan for their mechanic away days if critical. Not sure what happens if it’s implement issues. Phone a friend I guess
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To be fair if one of my good customers tried to call me out on Christmas Day/boxing day/new year I’d tell them politely where to go!
Independents and dealer staff have family and young kids you know.
If you can’t manage on a stock farm for a couple of days with a machine stopped you need to take a good look at your backup system.
Cowabunga
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Take £45,000 as a round figure for the 2006 value then to keep up with general inflation the current equivalent is £93,000.
So considering that all the extra crap is fitted to today's tractor, about £7000 on top of inflation isn't all that surprising. What is actually surprising is that farmer's incomes are generally still only at around 1990 levels not even taking inflation into account. Actual 1990ish level in Pounds and Pence.
I sold 10 barren cows last month. Great big dairy cows that were fairly lean, but well fleshed. They averaged £350 each. Back in the 80's and 90's they would have fetched double that money and a barren and a calf would have bought a milking cow nearly. Today I have to sell five barrens to buy one cow.
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The figures above are way out on my part but I will not delete the post as following posts won't make sense. The explanation is a few posts away below. https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/john-deere-reducing-dealerships.306118/post-6694334
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Cowabunga
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Apart from the milking machine itself, I agree. Everything else can and should have a backup in place. Not an ideal solution perhaps but one good enough to keep going for three or four days at a push, maybe with some extra time and effort involved.
Cowabunga
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You are responsible for your own backup of critical equipment. Its your kit not the dealer's. In fact it is a significant part of farm assurance that provision is made for emergencies and failures and that doesn't mean relying on third parties to sort it at short notice. That means the ability to source and use an alternative loader and way of feeding the animals, of bedding them, of scraping the cubicles and so on. Think of your emergency electricity generator as an analogy. Every dairy farm has one, and for good reason.
I agree, I run older kit and have back up strategy. It just seems that having new to potentially avoid having a lot of kit doesn’t stack up from a support view point. Do they shut up shop for August bank holiday? Arable farmers count your blessings that there a not more holidays in August. What happens in NZ and Australia?
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sherriffs buy out greenlay at cramlington
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- Northumberlandia
Very good workings out there i must say.
Was a Loaf less than half the price in 1996 compared to now ??? unsure ???
So annoying the world just wants food for nothing when everything right down the line has more than doubled in the timescale to produce the same ton of wheat say.
I looked back at some better years accounts recently & in 2008 we made record profits & did nothing special to get them.
Most of the reason was the variable inputs Seed/Agchems/fert etc etc less than half last years costs for a start oh & Farm Rent was about half also.
Makes some amount of difference. where just screwed basically now such a shame.
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Looks same thing as everywhere else eh Bob, either get bigger if you can or bye bye from Mr JD
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Nothing against Sherriffs i trade with them but its just taking away any competition thats the thing us as customers loose out of all these vast business's just getting bigger
celtis man
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tweedale terrier
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You can if you feel the need price check with another dealer anywhere you fancy. Most dealers have prices on websites. At the the end of the day if your happy with the deal on the day what’s the problem.
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This must be the most stupid post ever posted on tff ?. Definitely never owned any stock that have to be feed.
A loader tractor down would be a major concern or a handler but I could personally borrow to get me out of problems. Feeder wagons would be the same and most dealers will have a spare. A good friend of mine turned his wagon over one Christmas morning on a road covered in snow and ice with alot of hungry cow's to feed.
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tweedale terrier
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Untrue but I also have reasonable expectations and some backup in place. There must be some hideously busy people on this forum if the can’t handle a breakdown for a day or two.
kiwi pom
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Open as normal except stat days (25th 26th 1st 2nd) I'd guess. Slightly busier time of year though.
Its not a bad idea for them to shut over Christmas in the UK - I bet a good customer could get a replacement or a fitter out- Having staff take annual leave at a quiet time, all together, means they cant have it at other busier times. Many wouldn't be busy anyway and parts could be an issue.
Sheep
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Exor own FIAT, Alpha Romeo, Ferrari, CNH Industrial etc etc, HQ'd in the Netherlands with majority shareholders being Italian.
Basildon has twice the capacity of Austria, you will find a lot of Case being assembled in Basildon too. Aren't any tractors nowadays just assembled in their given factory? Many will be buying from all over.
NH may be getting their parts from across Europe, but what's the alternative? Buy a tractor that doesn't get assembled in the UK or have any of its parts or workforce sourced from here?