fiat 9090
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I'm taking your advice about not going cold turkey on the coffee I'll cut down gradually
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I'm a little behind, so I apologise for the tangent. Don't be afraid to make that jump. I did write a long reply, but deleted it, as essentially it read if your not happy move on, don't be afraid to do it. Even if you don't know what you want to do just try something else, you don't have to make it a career.
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23 is a social age- you make friends, play sports, joke about. You need to have interactions with people so that later on in life, when you find yourself working alone you aren’t lonely, as you have those soul nourishing experiences . If you are self employed you are most likely disciplined and hard working. I am certain there are many local businesses which would gladly hire someone with your skills and character. Don’t worry- you are at the beginning of yourlife story- there are many more chapters to come. Life looks like a straight line looking backwards, but looking forwards it’s a series of forks.
Christoph1945
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I read your post with interest and like others wondered if there had been some mistranslation, or misinterpretation within your thinking. I can see where, perhaps, you thought as you did but wonder if we would have been better asking our travelling companion what his ailments are and what are the drugs that he has to take; or even if he is suffering any side effects from taking the prescribed drugs.
Alas, we humans are prone to taking recreational drugs of one kind or an other and don't realise just what we are putting into our systems and the withdrawal pangs that we will suffer upon instantly stopping our usage. I have seen Godly men/women, who wouldn't consume a single drop of alcohol dependent on tobacco, tea, or coffee.
Christoph1945
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Lack of knowledge can sometime distort our view. Many years ago my then new wife and I stood high in the ancient city of Troy and took in the warm sun, sea breeze, and the general view. I was enthralled by it all but my wife looked around, looked at me, and said 'I don't know what you are on about, it's just a load of old stones!'
Troy where Hellen was and instigated the deaths of so many. Troy which Homer wrote so poetically about! Troy, that was missing for thousands of years.
Stood where we were, we could look in one direction and see the plane were the invading Greeks gathered before the sacking of the city. Off in an other direction, some considerable distance away, are the Dardanelles, where Mustafa Kemal Ataturk defeated and drove off the might of the British empire. Just a load of old stones?
Ignorance and lack of knowledge often distorts our view of people and sometimes even our selves!
Troy where Hellen was and instigated the deaths of so many. Troy which Homer wrote so poetically about! Troy, that was missing for thousands of years.
Stood where we were, we could look in one direction and see the plane were the invading Greeks gathered before the sacking of the city. Off in an other direction, some considerable distance away, are the Dardanelles, where Mustafa Kemal Ataturk defeated and drove off the might of the British empire. Just a load of old stones?
Ignorance and lack of knowledge often distorts our view of people and sometimes even our selves!
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Many young folk today are consuming huge quantities of caffeine (& sugar) but in "energy drinks", not coffee!
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I don't like the caffeine, so much as the ritual of making a good brew.
Same with rolling cigarettes, they were always what's now referred to in the office as "a micropause"
Habits are our talent as human beings, they prevent us having to think how to (do mundane stuff) so some of our habits can really just be a way of "popping out of the office for a minute"
Sarah used to have panic attacks when she got drunk and a bit too "out of it", she'd seize and be unable to talk, lose motor control etc
Really scared the crap out of me until we worked out it wasn't epilepsy, and worked out that it was when she was drunk and in an uncomfortable state of mind.
The best way to get her out of it?
Ask her to make a cup of coffee!
By the time she'd got the sugar in, she'd be on the way back.
Half an hour, sometimes, before she could speak again, but that simple ritual was powerful enough to control her anxiety.
Just like improving your soils, sometimes you just need to "tickle the system" somehow.
fiat 9090
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Yes I had a lad working for me that was on about 10 cans of monster per day and 40 cigarettes
fiat 9090
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I agree and there is nothing I would love better than a good debate on therapy versus tablets
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Is there a right answer to that? I don't like the idea of taking anything that affects your state of mind, but that said we must consider mental illness as an illness (without the stigma attached to the phrase), we wouldn't treat a serious illness without drugs, even with an injury pain medicine would be administered and anti inflammatories given to aid recovery. The key is appropriate use of drugs, and maybe greater access to alternative therapy through medical professionals?
Yes this is a completely different situation, so natural imblance of hormones may require hormonal replacement or use of stimulants of hormone secretion. There are different opinions between medics about it, some says it could cause some cardiovascular diseases but l personally would prefer to take this risk and live happy with hormone replacement, instead of living sad but longer. Otherwise it should not be recommended to use of drugs, I think.
fiat 9090
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Why do you not agree with drugs
Because this is not the right approach to the situation. I have watched a TV discuss yesterday night and experts were saying that even taking painkillers is posing a great danger for health, for example increasing cancer risk by %60 according to an examination made on female patients. So taking pills to "fix" our mood will just cause to disrupt our natural body balance. Even if someone has natural imbalance and had to use these pills, they still suffer many other health problems caused by these pills.
fiat 9090
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So if a person has diabetes should they take insulin or not ,can they all just change their diet ,you see its not straightforward ,should I stop taking my lithium because of the side effects
Apparently it's easier for the medics to control a rise from a deep depression with medication, easier than bring a person down from a bad mania episode,... that would be 'relativly easier' is what they mean of course and patients will vary big time as well.
You are correct though, medication in some severe illnesses eg. Manic depression ..now called BiPolar of course are absolutely necessary to a person suffering badly.
Greenbeast
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This is particularly relevant now we've gotten on to medicating the problem
Who are the happiest people ? Kids ofcourse. They are soo happy. Because they simply "dont care" about past nor future and they are living the moment. If you are not happy, then you need to change somethings in your life. Maybe you could try to be a "big" kid. LoL.
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The only way I have ever solved difficult problems is by tackling them a step at a time and ignoring what seems like the futility or hopelessness of it and not trying to solve it all at once, rather crossing bridges as we come to them. It's often surprising how things work out if you keep trying and keep working at them. You either have to do that or drop the job completely, write it off and change course.
I have never really found all the positive thinking, lifestyle, relaxation baloney to help much. An old farm worker once told me that "sometimes you just have to take the bull by the horns lad."
Not quite sure what I am driving at, but the things that get me down are things that seem insurmountable. I am learning not to get daunted by the size of the task before I have even started it, but just to start nibbling away at the problems and gradually they are overcome.
I have never really found all the positive thinking, lifestyle, relaxation baloney to help much. An old farm worker once told me that "sometimes you just have to take the bull by the horns lad."
Not quite sure what I am driving at, but the things that get me down are things that seem insurmountable. I am learning not to get daunted by the size of the task before I have even started it, but just to start nibbling away at the problems and gradually they are overcome.