Thank you for this thread. Sounds like a Salatin of old. Salatin himself says there is nothing new under the sun and only modern tech has allowed him to expand on models that were already created. I shall be adding these books to my Santa list although I've already got Damon Hill, Johnny Herbert and Ross Brawn on there. I believe our land can give us way more than it does and without raping it. Modern knowledge and technology should mean that every acre is being used to it's best, building soil and retaining carbon at the same time. We are some way off understanding how that would work at all.