Who’s buying gear ?

Smith31 · Apr 6, 2020

Hilly said:
Dealers workshops are full of newer end of kit knackered .

Its come to a point now where all the older basic tractors are rare as hens teeth or have been exported, so anything you purchase needs a laptop plugging into it.

Besides just because kit is older doesnt make it any cheaper to repair or run. Independent fitters working out of vans are touching £50 an hour.

Hilly · Apr 6, 2020

Smith31 said:
Its come to a point now where all the older basic tractors are rare as hens teeth or have been exported, so anything you purchase needs a laptop plugging into it.

Besides just because kit is older doesnt make it any cheaper to repair or run. Independent fitters working out of vans are touching £50 an hour.

Really ? Forestry rates here are over thirty and they dearer than agg lads , I ain’t ever came across any on fifty but good luck to them if they can get that maybe I need to put my spanners and laptop in a transit van?

Smith31 · Apr 6, 2020

Hilly said:
Really ? Forestry rates here are over thirty and they dearer than agg lads , I ain’t ever came across any on fifty but good luck to them if they can get that maybe I need to put my spanners and laptop in a transit van?

Sorry by the time travel time is added the rates are touching £50 an hour, if you have workshop facilities, the time and are handy with spanners then yes older kit will work for you, every business is different.

Hilly · Apr 6, 2020

Smith31 said:
Sorry by the time travel time is added the rates are touching £50 an hour, if you have workshop facilities, the time and are handy with spanners then yes older kit will work for you, every business is different.

Im not disbelieving you I don’t know where your located , good to know my lad wants an apprenticeship he’s going down the right road.

Hilly · Apr 6, 2020

I’m on the market for a digger, they are expensive , buyers market coming up ? Or get more expensive ?

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glasshouse · Apr 6, 2020

Hilly said:
I’m on the market for a digger, they are expensive , buyers market coming up ? Or get more expensive ?

There will be plenty of cheap diggers for sale shortly

Hilly · Apr 6, 2020

glasshouse said:
There will be plenty of cheap diggers for sale shortly

That’s what I’m thinking but often it goes the other way to what you think , time will tell but I’m not rushing .

Acke · Apr 6, 2020

Smith31 said:
The graveyards are full of farmers who struggled with poor kit, if a piece of kit can make my life easier and less stressful as long as I can afford it, I buy it. Farm kit will always be a better investment in comparison to fast cars and fast women

Fast car is the fast way,women is the nice way and best way to spend money is Farm kit

steveR · Apr 7, 2020

Hilly said:
Dealers workshops are full of newer end of kit knackered .

ex Contract hire and the like...

Heard the tale from a mechanic of one local company who shall both remain anonymous, of a Contractor whose staff were fundamentally incapable of looking after Tractors. Said tractors came back into the system after 2-3 years, totally shagged in many cases. The Dealer moved them on rather than put their name to the kit...

ajd132 · Apr 7, 2020

Smith31 said:
The graveyards are full of farmers who struggled with poor kit, if a piece of kit can make my life easier and less stressful as long as I can afford it, I buy it. Farm kit will always be a better investment in comparison to fast cars and fast women

I get this, 1 wide new drill that costs more to start with, that only needs 2 people to keep it going (1 on loader) is cheaper than paying extra people to run 2 smaller older drills in the long run. Full time staff are definitely more expensive than kit.

Smith31 · Apr 7, 2020

ajd132 said:
I get this, 1 wide new drill that costs more to start with, that only needs 2 people to keep it going (1 on loader) is cheaper than paying extra people to run 2 smaller older drills in the long run. Full time staff are definitely more expensive than kit.

I have found that our kit never moans, is never on snapchat, never late and has never left me to work for someone else during harvest

teslacoils · Apr 7, 2020

This year has seen a big switch from doing 2500ac of work, to 260ac of work which I now have someone else come to drill and fetch in.

There are better farm investments that are still tax efficient that are better than stuff with an engine for me. Was paying close to £20 an acre to insure the nice shiney gear that was likely to do under 100 hours work each. In any case, my local dealer always has a yard full of second hand crawlers I can hire for a week or two if needed.

I'm led to believe any shocking tax I pay can always be got back next year with a suitably meaty purchase.

Wombat · Apr 7, 2020

teslacoils said:
This year has seen a big switch from doing 2500ac of work, to 260ac of work which I now have someone else come to drill and fetch in.

There are better farm investments that are still tax efficient that are better than stuff with an engine for me. Was paying close to £20 an acre to insure the nice shiney gear that was likely to do under 100 hours work each. In any case, my local dealer always has a yard full of second hand crawlers I can hire for a week or two if needed.

I'm led to believe any shocking tax I pay can always be got back next year with a suitably meaty purchase.

If you were going to pick a year to drop that amount of work this was probably it. Do you pick lottery numbers?

kiwi pom · Apr 7, 2020

steveR said:
ex Contract hire and the like...

Heard the tale from a mechanic of one local company who shall both remain anonymous, of a Contractor whose staff were fundamentally incapable of looking after Tractors. Said tractors came back into the system after 2-3 years, totally shagged in many cases. The Dealer moved them on rather than put their name to the kit...

Why on earth would you waste time and money looking after something on contract hire? Hire the smallest model you can get away with put some wild, cheap, "Grassmen style" pilots on them and crack on.
The bit that amazes me is people buying ex hire tractors, thinking they've bought a bargin.

ewald · Apr 7, 2020

After lengthy consultation with my accountant and bank manager I have invested in another used haybob.
I lay awake most of last night worrying if I have done the right thing....

organicguy · Apr 7, 2020

A man beside me always said machinery was better than paying wages, as you could always sell it again.
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My father always said labour was cheap because they could do many different jobs!

teslacoils · Apr 7, 2020

Wombat said:
If you were going to pick a year to drop that amount of work this was probably it. Do you pick lottery numbers?

The stress hasn't dropped by 90 percent, sadly. Just need to bank to start paying me to borrow money now.....

fieldfarmer · Apr 7, 2020

steveR said:
If the Order was submitted in last tax year, you should be able to have pushed a purchase back...?

Not from a tax point if view, as things stand at the moment my accountant says it has to be available for use in the tax year its tax relief is claimed, however my thoughts are as long as the paper trail is correct who can argue.

ARW · Apr 7, 2020

ewald said:
After lengthy consultation with my accountant and bank manager I have invested in another used haybob.
I lay awake most of last night worrying if I have done the right thing....

A haybob is never the right thing!

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