Who’s buying gear ?

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
IF
You can afford it
That is the question
Personally i would rather run affordable machines i know how to fix than put my head in an hp noose

But you need time to spend fixing things, and there comes a time where you need to crack on but you can't because you have to fix something.

Sometimes its little niggles sometimes it's big issues.

I know new stuff stops working as well but main tractor here is now on 5 years warranty.
Peace of mind going forward for me
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
But you need time to spend fixing things, and there comes a time where you need to crack on but you can't because you have to fix something.

Sometimes its little niggles sometimes it's big issues.

I know new stuff stops working as well but main tractor here is now on 5 years warranty.
Peace of mind going forward for me
Days spent fixing old crap are a waste of time that could be spent on far more lucrative things.
 

Rowland

Member
Days spent fixing old crap are a waste of time that could be spent on far more lucrative things.
I know a local contractor who seams to have mainly older gear and he’s constantly fixing it when to me it should be working. He had a bit of bad luck with a newish tractor so thinks it’s ok to buy older stuff. But the older stuff breaks down consistently and is in need of on going repairs then it and it’s operator are not working. Same for anyone really.
What’s classed as an older simple tractor was a complex one compared to one from the previous 20 years .
For example. How much would it cost to put a set of brakes in a mxm/tm 150 ? £4k or more at a guess ? How much down time ? 3 or 4 days if you can get someone to do it and get all the parts there and then probably more like a week.
Parts are seriously dear these days .
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I know a local contractor who seams to have mainly older gear and he’s constantly fixing it when to me it should be working. He had a bit of bad luck with a newish tractor so thinks it’s ok to buy older stuff. But the older stuff breaks down consistently and is in need of on going repairs then it and it’s operator are not working. Same for anyone really.
What’s classed as an older simple tractor was a complex one compared to one from the previous 20 years .
For example. How much would it cost to put a set of brakes in a mxm/tm 150 ? £4k or more at a guess ? How much down time ? 3 or 4 days if you can get someone to do it and get all the parts there and then probably more like a week.
Parts are seriously dear these days .
There is balance between staff levels, repair bill and depreciation. Lots of ways to do it and any way can work if done properly.
 
There is balance between staff levels, repair bill and depreciation. Lots of ways to do it and any way can work if done properly.

You could go out and run a fleet of TM155-190s or whatever all day and save yourself a lot of depreciation.

Only to buy into a lot of repairs, having 4 tractors on hand with only 3 functional and shelling out big money for a new hydraulic pump or whatever here and there.

Then of course you need to find someone to drive the things.

Had this conversation with a former client once.

'Ah, electronic spools and linkage- waste of money, they only go wrong'.

Fair enough and probably a true statement in the main. But when you examined his workload, say less than 800 acres mowing and power-harrowing a year, then you think well ok, you get on and off the machine and do 8-10 hours a time on it amongst other jobs. All for yourself and if you get fudged off with driving a tractor you can do in the house, milk cows or do something else.

For the bloke working for a contractor you are in that thing 12 hours a day, often as a minimum. Day after day. No change of places.

Given this scenario it's a whole other ball game where creature comforts, cab suspension, gearbox wizardry and less noise and vibration, even a posher seat make all the difference.
 
Location
Cleveland
We’ve just bought a new rake

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but I can confirm I’m more excited and interested in the free pair of overalls that came with it...


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thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
It appears the panic buying started at the Supermarkets has spread across the board. Everyone had never been as busy just before lock-down.

The financial world is the catalyst to kick-starting the economy, there should be allot of very cheap money swalling around to both business and private borrowers with a less onerous risk profile attached.
 

J 1177

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Durham, UK
I know a local contractor who seams to have mainly older gear and he’s constantly fixing it when to me it should be working. He had a bit of bad luck with a newish tractor so thinks it’s ok to buy older stuff. But the older stuff breaks down consistently and is in need of on going repairs then it and it’s operator are not working. Same for anyone really.
What’s classed as an older simple tractor was a complex one compared to one from the previous 20 years .
For example. How much would it cost to put a set of brakes in a mxm/tm 150 ? £4k or more at a guess ? How much down time ? 3 or 4 days if you can get someone to do it and get all the parts there and then probably more like a week.
Parts are seriously dear these days .
I know who you mean, very unlucky with that tractor tho
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Days spent fixing old crap are a waste of time that could be spent on far more lucrative things.
So right there, we used to run worn out kit. Whenever I needed to go drilling or fert spreading etc, you'd spend a day fixing it. When I took over running the place I pretty much got rid of all of it. What a revalation to put a machine on a tractor and actually be able to do a full days work!! But I only buy what I need when I can afford it although the tractor is due a change
 

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