Silage / Straw / Hay Price Tracker

ImLost

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Not sure
That’s where’s lot of the multi cut guys pay on tonnage and not on acreage. Better quality and easier on machines and quicker to cover ground.
Had 11 acre closed up for 58 days, usually 8/9 bale/acre but managed 36 bales this year :(
Thankfully a lot of lambs gone, Rain has come and won’t go away and grass is bulking now, hopefully get to 100 bales sometime. Fed 50-60 this April/May mind which was more than all winter :/

Still got 3/4 of my straw requirement for next winter in the shed, Spring crops are 30-40” tall and looking well now, promised my neighbour any straw he needs and I’ll store it until Christmas for him too (y)
How many head are you feeding?
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
That’s where’s lot of the multi cut guys pay on tonnage and not on acreage. Better quality and easier on machines and quicker to cover ground.
Had 11 acre closed up for 58 days, usually 8/9 bale/acre but managed 36 bales this year :(
Thankfully a lot of lambs gone, Rain has come and won’t go away and grass is bulking now, hopefully get to 100 bales sometime. Fed 50-60 this April/May mind which was more than all winter :/

Still got 3/4 of my straw requirement for next winter in the shed, Spring crops are 30-40” tall and looking well now, promised my neighbour any straw he needs and I’ll store it until Christmas for him too (y)
FIL, and plenty others, operate by the hour down here. Seems fairer to me when you've got multi cut dairy boys, and single, heavy cut beef ones on your patch
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
farmers compare prices about, cost/acre 1st, or 2nd cut, and a general figure emerges, but that doesn't take into consideration, yield, or 'multicut', so the 'quoted' charge/acre, is very misleading, and, from a contractors view, the lighter cuts, have to balance the heavier ones. You can imagine the complaints, if, 'you only charged x so much for 1st cut, yet you billed me y amount more, per acre', contractors have a hard enough job now, without more hassle.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
farmers compare prices about, cost/acre 1st, or 2nd cut, and a general figure emerges, but that doesn't take into consideration, yield, or 'multicut', so the 'quoted' charge/acre, is very misleading, and, from a contractors view, the lighter cuts, have to balance the heavier ones. You can imagine the complaints, if, 'you only charged x so much for 1st cut, yet you billed me y amount more, per acre', contractors have a hard enough job now, without more hassle.
But from a farmers pov, why should my heavy cut be balanced by the dairy farmers light cut?
By the hour fairer imo. Also encourages the farmer to be better organised, clear his fields of potential metal stoppages, widen his gateways etc, so better for contractor too.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
But from a farmers pov, why should my heavy cut be balanced by the dairy farmers light cut?
By the hour fairer imo. Also encourages the farmer to be better organised, clear his fields of potential metal stoppages, widen his gateways etc, so better for contractor too.
minefield, the system has traditionally been per acre, but things have changed, our chap splits, depending on no of trailors, etc, By the tonne, weighbridge, dm of grass, multicut v heavy cut, time taken to pay, for multi cut, more exact timing, etc. All has to be chucked into the equation, and every farmer, reckons it to dear.!
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
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D14

Member
Can somebody clarify please:

Farmer bales, stacks and loads and gets £50/tonne. His costs are probably in the region of £15/t assuming 500kg weight bales so net £35/t and then has to account for the lost OM and nutrients.

Buyer is paying £90/tonne delivered.

So the merchant is creaming £40/tonne for haulage. Assuming a 19t load (38 hestons) he’s getting £760 and will do two loads a day or picking straw up as a backload.

Glad we’ve sold privately at £70/ac with no costs other than the lost OM and nutrients leaving the field.
 

Spencer

Member
Location
North West
Can somebody clarify please:

Farmer bales, stacks and loads and gets £50/tonne. His costs are probably in the region of £15/t assuming 500kg weight bales so net £35/t and then has to account for the lost OM and nutrients.

Buyer is paying £90/tonne delivered.

So the merchant is creaming £40/tonne for haulage. Assuming a 19t load (38 hestons) he’s getting £760 and will do two loads a day or picking straw up as a backload.

Glad we’ve sold privately at £70/ac with no costs other than the lost OM and nutrients leaving the field.
Merchants always make their margin... :bored:

The art of good business is being a good middle man..
 

Shebb90

Member
Location
Devon
Can somebody clarify please:

Farmer bales, stacks and loads and gets £50/tonne. His costs are probably in the region of £15/t assuming 500kg weight bales so net £35/t and then has to account for the lost OM and nutrients.

Buyer is paying £90/tonne delivered.

So the merchant is creaming £40/tonne for haulage. Assuming a 19t load (38 hestons) he’s getting £760 and will do two loads a day or picking straw up as a backload.

Glad we’ve sold privately at £70/ac with no costs other than the lost OM and nutrients leaving the field.
Don't forget the drag. We get 27/28 ton at a time
 

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