Happy hillbily
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Don't do that ! Councils here can't even keep the gullies clear on the roads, yet they repair the sides of the road damaged by running water caused by blocked gullies !
River Lugg, Herefordshire
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Don't do that ! Councils here can't even keep the gullies clear on the roads, yet they repair the sides of the road damaged by running water caused by blocked gullies !
organicguy
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- North East of the south west
They can date the silts in the river deltas around the Med. They tie up with the ploughing of hillsides to feed the expanding Roman empire.
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Exactly. A lot of this thread seems to be about how farmers could fix the problem easily but they're all ignoring the rules that have been made.
An earthworks contractor that didn't have to abide by the rules could fix it easily too. Imagine if they could go on anyone's land whenever they wanted with no permission to fix things. The land agents would have a heart attack.
The problem is people trying to do the work do have to stick to the rules, so they're fighting with their hands behind their back.
that's the point the farmers don't need permission from themselves
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
They are still digging up mosaic floors often 2 metres or more deep from the Roman period
Tarw Coch
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- Bottom of Wats Dyke
The 70’s is a fair while ago now, a lot has changed.
It’s often mentioned on here about when more work was carried out maintaining the rivers, dredging etc. I don’t know when that stopped but that lack of maintenance won’t have helped.
Plus there is the amount of building work that has taken place in the years since channeling rain water rapidly into watercourses, it must add up to 1000’s of acres. The amount of land lost to bypasses alone must lead to a lot of extra water finding its way into the river, apart from Shrewsbury bypass there’s Nescliffe, Oswestry, Four Crosses, Welshpool, Newtown, and Llanidloes that I can think of in that time, that a fair chunk of farmland tarmaced over, no doubt dwarfed by the number of houses and industrial units with their associated roadways that have been built in that time, it all sends rainwater downstream faster than from the farmland it’s replaced.
Apologies if already posted.
www.herefordtimes.com
Bulldozing of Lugg riverbank 'may have stopped flooding'
THE controversial works undertaken last year to clear the River Lugg in Kingsland may have prevented flooding during Storm Christoph, say local…
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Doing it for the kids
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double whammy. Less river works and more building.
from what I have worked out 1m3 of buffer storage is needed per 100m2 of new hard standing To pacify planners!
thats a huge amount of attention which may have gone in with good intention bit as it silts up the retention will fall making the problem worse
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
20 years ago the EA only required SUDS to cater for a 1 in 20 year event. Now it's 1 in 100 plus climate change.
The trouble is:
1. The size is determined by theoretical models paid for by the developer who puts pressure on the consultant to keep it small.
2. The planning system is ineffective at ensuring the measures are maintained at design impact.
3. It's not uncommon for elements of the SUDS scheme to be "modified" later, in ways that reduce their effectiveness, to cut maintenance costs. It's been done near here by Hertfordshire Highways on a major bypass scheme!
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
1 Cm for 100 sq m does not sound much , that is only 10mm of rain!
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
or as happened in Milton Keynes where the large buffer storage became permanently flooded to cater for public enjoyment , fishing, water sports etc. totally negating the construction of the balancing lakes
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- Lincolnshire
Easy to put in place, then fail to maintain. I'm never sure who is responsible for maintaining attenuation ponds etc in housing developments. Developer long gone before they needed upkeep, then some cock says "what about the newts?".
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- Boroughbridge, york
A local building development ran into serious problems with run off, and allegedly had to spend 1000's hiring in water cleaning systems to sort all the dirty water, They now seem to have the attenuation ponds etc finished and working.
Something has gone wrong however there is now a deep flood on the main road in a place that was never a problem before
Something has gone wrong however there is now a deep flood on the main road in a place that was never a problem before
Doing it for the kids
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normally transfers to a management company which home owners pay into.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Which then fails to do any significant SUDS maintenance......
Or indeed from my experience, any maintenance of streetlighting or any other infrastructure...
Streetlighting wouldn't usually be a responsibility of a management company set up for a housing development. As long as the roads are adopted the road surface and lighting fall under the remit of the County Council.
There was a time when parish councils routinely adopted public open spaces, they found however that the costs were huge especially when the developers started putting water storage reservoirs under kids playgrounds !!!
Around here, there were a lot of developers building on land aquired from the Development Corporation that did not have proper formal arrangements with the local authorities, this is still happening. IKWYM about the issues with taking on a "POS", as Inhad to work hard to dissuade my successor from taking on land that would have incorpororated buffer storage!
Two local sites were going to go for private lighting contractors, and was involved with a conversation to allow the PC take over the Lighting as we are, unusually, a lighting authority.
yellow belly
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- south west lincolnshire
The big flooding events are 50 mm 2 inches
the wettest day here was 6 inches. 150mm on good Friday a few years ago
never seen water flood off field like it even had floods on top of a hill
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