- Location
- Essex
I would probably carry on with yearly testing. We have a brilliant technician who does ours and I like the peace of mind that comes with him looking over it before I put thousands of pounds worth of inputs through it.
The Red Tractor ACCS referendum
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
ours sees a tech more than once a year - makes the MOT and it specific costs a joke though as its ALWAYS in 100% condition - it applies £100's of thousand of £ product a year, why would I ever not makes sure it was in tip top condition ?
I don't need a failed agronomist inspector to tell me this or to need to pay to be told this, I'm not a child and that's how it feels RT treats me
Christoph1945
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- Location
- Widnes West Cheshire
I was in Tesco yesterday, shopping for a few odds n ens, and suddenly remembered RedTractor as I checked out. Whilst actually walking around the store nothing had jumped off the shelves and ploughed over me but on close inspection of the three British chucks in my trolley they did have a miniscule RedTractor logo on them.
It all sounds to me like you are getting very poor representation to the British Public for your cash ; or perhaps I should keep my appointment with Specsavers next week.
It all sounds to me like you are getting very poor representation to the British Public for your cash ; or perhaps I should keep my appointment with Specsavers next week.
Feldspar
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- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
I think this is a point worth repeating. BRC look after their members interests, AIC look after theirs. Red Tractor on the other hand seem desperate to please anyone but their own members. It leaves me with the question, who in all of this is really standing up for the farmers' interests?
I could be argued that AIC and RT should welcome a basic scheme because according to them no-one will use it.
Everyone wants assurance but will they pay extra for RT.
I am hoping to be both RT and "produced in the UK "and offer two prices for my grain.
Let the market decide.
It would be a good question to ask if anyone gets the chance at one of these meetings.
Why is a basic scheme a threat if no one will use it?
Everyone wants assurance but will they pay extra for RT.
I am hoping to be both RT and "produced in the UK "and offer two prices for my grain.
Let the market decide.
It would be a good question to ask if anyone gets the chance at one of these meetings.
Why is a basic scheme a threat if no one will use it?
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Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
"Let the market decide." Exactly, that will determine the truth of the matter about how much the higher level is really valued.
the NFU .......... apparently, and the Farmer RT board members ....... that the NFU appoints
ummmmmmm !!!
Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
The board structure of Red Tractor still does not make sense to me at all. Why would you not just have people on the board who squarely have their members interests at heart (rather than the buyers in AIC's case, or people with another agenda such as the other experts they have on the board). They can take evidence from the AIC, take evidence from the BRC and other experts, but ultimately the final vote on what happens should be made by farmers or their representatives. It seems totally absurd that AIC board members sit on the board and can help vote to ensure farmers get a rotten deal. You have to be able to walk away from a negotiation, otherwise it's not a surprise that we get these unfair outcomes.
Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
The poles payment is a good point. I always feel the payments are very low.
Daniel
Member
- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
I think I might have said earlier in the thread, but the Lion Code now demand every member of staff is enrolled on a mandatory Lion Code Training Passport scheme, and goes on at least one training course per year from an approved training provider.
It's a racket that RT will be looking at enviously I should imagine.
Pathetic when you consider the multi billion £ profitable telecom and energy industries we facilitate
SilliamWhale
Member
I was in Tesco yesterday, shopping for a few odds n ens, and suddenly remembered RedTractor as I checked out. Whilst actually walking around the store nothing had jumped off the shelves and ploughed over me but on close inspection of the three British chucks in my trolley they did have a miniscule RedTractor logo on them.
It all sounds to me like you are getting very poor representation to the British Public for your cash ; or perhaps I should keep my appointment with Specsavers next week.
The fresh meat is red tractor often, silver spoon sugar and the milk.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
We will see it more and more so. Big buyers using their buying power to insist on taking control of our businesses. It’s our capital that’s tied up in their production system. We become nothing more than workers on our farms doing as we are told, closely monitored. It really doesn’t make a future in commodity production look very appealing.
- Location
- Herefordshire
SilliamWhale
Member
The make up of the board looks horrific especially as the NFU own it.
Yes there are some farmers on there but I'm don't think many people feel those farmers are interested in looking other farmers interests especially considering the situation we have got to now - Andrew Blenkiron doesn't because he has publicly criticised dissenters as backstabbers, and Guy Smith doesn't seem to be averse to the new rules and the overreach.
I suppose the only hope would be Stuart Roberts but no one has any idea what his views are because its a secret and all he has said is "please respond to the proposal" which doesn't feel like leadership.
Actually the farmers on the board are mnoistlyt decent people - Talking to them though (past and present) they feel the board is weighted so much against them there is basically no point them being there
The NFU conflicts of interest re ownership / the board structure and their role in “independent“ consultation or representation of farmers best interest is shocking however
SilliamWhale
Member
Of course they're decent people. I'm not doubting anyone's decency.
I'm a decent person too and Red Tractor turns me into a liar sometimes, along with all the other farmers.
Speaking to them I feel sorry re how they are being used - They get a nice jolly to the fancy west end offices in London however, made to feel ever so important and a decent lunch I’m sure to keep them in line